Cloverfield Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... so%20cheap? Never really heard that sort of opinion before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 to the forum. Are you a zed owner? If not try to test drive one and form your own opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloverfield Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 Thanks! I used to drive one through work and I'm looking at getting another. A GT4 actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdoch Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 That guy on the link is a muppet! I want to slap him and teach him how to drive. The 350z is a great drivers car, I love the twitch it makes my drive so much fun! Some people huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 that thread has certainly developed since i last read it a day or 2 ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 That guy on the link is a muppet! I want to slap him and teach him how to drive. The 350z is a great drivers car, I love the twitch it makes my drive so much fun! Some people huh +1 Just shows you the dangers of letting all and sundry have access to a public forum where they can air their misguided and ill-judged views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdoch Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I know, I just hate when people talk complete rubbish about cars! He's prob never even driven one, its just what he's heard from a mate of a mate of a mate, or his mothers brothers sisters fathers sons uncles neice lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I seem to remember (can't be bothered to re-read) that he has owned one. If he's such an expert and writes for magasines I'm not sure why he spat the dummy & is venting his spleen so hard on an internet forum. It's good to hear un-biased views though, hope to be adding mine in the not too distant future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Ok, the guy doesn't like the Zed but the suggestion that its the worst handling car he's ever driven is just a rather poor attempt to be Clarkson-controversial. But then he gets uptight because people question its credibility... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Ok, the guy doesn't like the Zed but the suggestion that its the worst handling car he's ever driven is just a rather poor attempt to be Clarkson-controversial. But then he gets uptight because people question its credibility... I've owned a car that cost nearly 5 times a MY03 zed when new and had nearly twice as much power. I still love the zed and will buy a third in the non too distant future. Anyone with a braincell knows that the two are not comparable. You can't compare it to cars outside of its price and performance range. Compared to a Carrera GT, its crap. Compared to a Saxo, its amazing. He is a complete ****. He may not like it but he has no journalistic objectivity and is obviously trying to engineer a bit of notoriety. There are people on that thread slating the zed because there is one for £8k, what a load of @*!#. I was offered a Ferrari 360 last week (with 100k on the clock) for £20k, does that mean the rest are the worst cars in the world and lead to financial suicide? No. The bloke is a total knob imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Ok, the guy doesn't like the Zed but the suggestion that its the worst handling car he's ever driven is just a rather poor attempt to be Clarkson-controversial. But then he gets uptight because people question its credibility... I've owned a car that cost nearly 5 times a MY03 zed when new and had nearly twice as much power. I still love the zed and will buy a third in the non too distant future. Anyone with a braincell knows that the two are not comparable. You can't compare it to cars outside of its price and performance range. Compared to a Carrera GT, its crap. Compared to a Saxo, its amazing. He is a complete ****. He may not like it but he has no journalistic objectivity and is obviously trying to engineer a bit of notoriety. There are people on that thread slating the zed because there is one for £8k, what a load of @*!#. I was offered a Ferrari 360 last week (with 100k on the clock) for £20k, does that mean the rest are the worst cars in the world and lead to financial suicide? No. The bloke is a total knob imo. TBH I've never heard of his online mag before and having read that I won't be looking it up in a hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Ok, the guy doesn't like the Zed but the suggestion that its the worst handling car he's ever driven is just a rather poor attempt to be Clarkson-controversial. But then he gets uptight because people question its credibility... I've owned a car that cost nearly 5 times a MY03 zed when new and had nearly twice as much power. I still love the zed and will buy a third in the non too distant future. Anyone with a braincell knows that the two are not comparable. You can't compare it to cars outside of its price and performance range. Compared to a Carrera GT, its crap. Compared to a Saxo, its amazing. He is a complete ****. He may not like it but he has no journalistic objectivity and is obviously trying to engineer a bit of notoriety. There are people on that thread slating the zed because there is one for £8k, what a load of @*!#. I was offered a Ferrari 360 last week (with 100k on the clock) for £20k, does that mean the rest are the worst cars in the world and lead to financial suicide? No. The bloke is a total knob imo. TBH I've never heard of his online mag before and having read that I won't be looking it up in a hurry. If he was any good he would be writing for a published magazine, what a ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Ok, the guy doesn't like the Zed but the suggestion that its the worst handling car he's ever driven is just a rather poor attempt to be Clarkson-controversial. But then he gets uptight because people question its credibility... I've owned a car that cost nearly 5 times a MY03 zed when new and had nearly twice as much power. I still love the zed and will buy a third in the non too distant future. Anyone with a braincell knows that the two are not comparable. You can't compare it to cars outside of its price and performance range. Compared to a Carrera GT, its crap. Compared to a Saxo, its amazing. He is a complete ****. He may not like it but he has no journalistic objectivity and is obviously trying to engineer a bit of notoriety. There are people on that thread slating the zed because there is one for £8k, what a load of @*!#. I was offered a Ferrari 360 last week (with 100k on the clock) for £20k, does that mean the rest are the worst cars in the world and lead to financial suicide? No. The bloke is a total knob imo. TBH I've never heard of his online mag before and having read that I won't be looking it up in a hurry. If he was any good he would be writing for a published magazine, what a ****. Not strictly true - check out the team behind Drivers Republic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Ok, the guy doesn't like the Zed but the suggestion that its the worst handling car he's ever driven is just a rather poor attempt to be Clarkson-controversial. But then he gets uptight because people question its credibility... I've owned a car that cost nearly 5 times a MY03 zed when new and had nearly twice as much power. I still love the zed and will buy a third in the non too distant future. Anyone with a braincell knows that the two are not comparable. You can't compare it to cars outside of its price and performance range. Compared to a Carrera GT, its crap. Compared to a Saxo, its amazing. He is a complete ****. He may not like it but he has no journalistic objectivity and is obviously trying to engineer a bit of notoriety. There are people on that thread slating the zed because there is one for £8k, what a load of @*!#. I was offered a Ferrari 360 last week (with 100k on the clock) for £20k, does that mean the rest are the worst cars in the world and lead to financial suicide? No. The bloke is a total knob imo. TBH I've never heard of his online mag before and having read that I won't be looking it up in a hurry. If he was any good he would be writing for a published magazine, what a ****. Not strictly true - check out the team behind Drivers Republic. Granted, the expection to the rule, but those guys between them are an ex EVO magazine editor, former EVO deputy editor, an ex AUTOCAR editor etc etc, all with respected positions within the industry and hope that their reputations will carry their site to success. Publications first, internet based second. Their experience and reputations allow it. This guy is a no-one. Written for no one, and expects to be taken seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronzee Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you could very well be correct Sarnie. You never know what has motivated his comments also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmJak Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 You never know what has motivated his comments also. I think the fact that he is a complete ****? I like the comment that 350z's are worth 8k because chavs drive them. Oh dear. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've always said the EVO lot are biased to anything German and overpriced. Respected as drivers, maybe. I have no respect of their opinion as it always come back with the same answer - Porsche, BMW or the expensive one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Did you read the Evo GTR review. It was pretty positive. They write well about various type R's etc too. And of course they love the 350Z I can't comment on Porsche having never driven one, and it does get a bit dull when you get to the end of a review, shootout etc and 'Porsche wins again' but you have to say the Evo team know their cars. In fact they're most of the reason I'm getting a Z. They love the Panda 100HP though but it's not on my list yet Sorry, this turned into a bit of an Evo fanboy post - car fanboy not Evo fanboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've always said the EVO lot are biased to anything German and overpriced. Respected as drivers, maybe. I have no respect of their opinion as it always come back with the same answer - Porsche, BMW or the expensive one.... Just not true, Rob. From last month's EVO's choices:- Supermini - Fiat Panda 100HP Hot Hatch - Megane R26 Small Coupe - Zed Sports Saloon - M3 Big Saloon - M5 4X4/Estates - M5 Touring Sports Cars - Boxster Coupes/GTs - GT-R Convertibles - XKR Supercars - Ferrari 599GTB IIRC their best handling FWD car was a Teg. I could go on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 ... I'm getting a Z. They love the Panda 100HP though but it's not on my list yet Good idea, get used to the Z first before working your way up to the Panda, you'll just stack it if you jump straight in and let rip with those hundred horses in the wet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've always said the EVO lot are biased to anything German and overpriced. Respected as drivers, maybe. I have no respect of their opinion as it always come back with the same answer - Porsche, BMW or the expensive one.... Just not true, Rob. From last month's EVO's choices:- Supermini - Fiat Panda 100HP Hot Hatch - Megane R26 Small Coupe - Zed Sports Saloon - M3 Big Saloon - M5 4X4/Estates - M5 Touring Sports Cars - Boxster Coupes/GTs - GT-R Convertibles - XKR Supercars - Ferrari 599GTB IIRC their best handling FWD car was a Teg. I could go on.... Without going back and looking at other cars they include in the categories, I'm not sure what the summaries mean. But 30% of them go to BMW, so I'm not wrong there! I am referring to the articles themselves, and the constant references to '3 series' this and '911' that. Just as I find it. I love cars with a passion, but I just find their reviews predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've always said the EVO lot are biased to anything German and overpriced. Respected as drivers, maybe. I have no respect of their opinion as it always come back with the same answer - Porsche, BMW or the expensive one.... Just not true, Rob. From last month's EVO's choices:- Supermini - Fiat Panda 100HP Hot Hatch - Megane R26 Small Coupe - Zed Sports Saloon - M3 Big Saloon - M5 4X4/Estates - M5 Touring Sports Cars - Boxster Coupes/GTs - GT-R Convertibles - XKR Supercars - Ferrari 599GTB IIRC their best handling FWD car was a Teg. I could go on.... Without going back and looking at other cars they include in the categories, I'm not sure what the summaries mean. But 30% of them go to BMW, so I'm not wrong there! I am referring to the articles themselves, and the constant references to '3 series' this and '911' that. Just as I find it. I love cars with a passion, but I just find their reviews predictable. Rather less predictable of late - R8 trumps 911, GT-R trumps R8... I suspect the BMWs are there because they are the best in class. Clearly you don't like the mag and that's fine but there really isn't a German/overpriced bias beyond the fact that the Germans make a lot of mighty fine cars. Maybe you have an anti-German bias... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Maybe you have an anti-German bias... Which may mean you having to leave whats been called in the past the "site Gestapo" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've always been biased towards German cars, mainly for reasons of build quality. Strangely never fancied a BMW due to image and wanting to be let out at junctions occasionally Objectivity now rules and the 350Z ticks most boxes for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've always said the EVO lot are biased to anything German and overpriced. Respected as drivers, maybe. I have no respect of their opinion as it always come back with the same answer - Porsche, BMW or the expensive one.... Just not true, Rob. From last month's EVO's choices:- Supermini - Fiat Panda 100HP Hot Hatch - Megane R26 Small Coupe - Zed Sports Saloon - M3 Big Saloon - M5 4X4/Estates - M5 Touring Sports Cars - Boxster Coupes/GTs - GT-R Convertibles - XKR Supercars - Ferrari 599GTB IIRC their best handling FWD car was a Teg. I could go on.... Without going back and looking at other cars they include in the categories, I'm not sure what the summaries mean. But 30% of them go to BMW, so I'm not wrong there! I am referring to the articles themselves, and the constant references to '3 series' this and '911' that. Just as I find it. I love cars with a passion, but I just find their reviews predictable. Rather less predictable of late - R8 trumps 911, GT-R trumps R8... I suspect the BMWs are there because they are the best in class. Clearly you don't like the mag and that's fine but there really isn't a German/overpriced bias beyond the fact that the Germans make a lot of mighty fine cars. Maybe you have an anti-German bias... No anti German bias at all, I'd love many Mercs and even the odd Audi. As I say, it is just as I find it, and I have not read it for a good 12 months on that basis. If it has changed, so be it. I may not have any affection for BMW, granted. It was just in the little articles and reviews of any new car, I felt the references were OTT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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