Strudul

Lovely....

Not quite, but does the job with a lil imagination.

I'm not sure you even realise how obtuse some of your posts are, or how blind you argue a dead point...

And I don't, I just accept things for how they are... I took the same approach to Brexit. I disagree with the uninformed and mislead public making a decision on something they are not qualified to make a decision on, which includes myself.

Sorry, I didn't know you knew what I was thinking or doing better than I did. As I said before, I'm not the one making false accusations and trying to argue for the sake of arguing.

I'd be more concerned about your inability to understand that I wasn't arguing for and defending it after I explicitly said i wasn't 9 times...

You've got to be joking...

Not at all, it's a hypothetical discussion based on opinions and very little supporting evidence on either side. I'm not sure how mine can be deemed to be stated as fact anymore than anyone else's... However, going back to falsifiability, to claim it wouldn't work is harder to prove than claiming it could work. I repeat myself and state I'm doing so because people are either not reading or ignoring what was said and it hinders the progression of the discussion, it has nothing to do with their intelligence. If the question has already been answered, then why keep asking it? The irony being you are accusing me of having no further point...

That's just the thing, I wasn't arguing for it. I made that perfectly clear. Choosing to ignore the fact doesn't change that. I defended a few specific points that had merit.

So what about other non-lethal weapons? And just because the terrorists adapt, why can't we?

Could always do a rear wiper delete and pretend the problem doesn't exist

What you say and what you imply are 2 very different things... Considering I've generally addressed each point individually, I'm not sure how you can accuse me of not reading what is written. However, seeing as the discussion is just going round in circles, I'm bored of repeating myself. There's 7 pages of responses that are relevant and can be applied. It's not about proving anyone wrong. This is a problem a lot of people seem to have. It's should simply be about discussing pros / cons. Starting to get emotionally and personally invested leads to the inevitable upset and name calling... Now, if stating that I don't think the suggestion is a good idea doesn't show acceptance of the merit of other peoples points, I don't know what does. However, since it wasn't my suggestion and I don't / didn't agree with it, there is nothing for me to admit I was wrong about... As for psych tests, if you go back to the beginning of this discussion, I said that answering questions alone was not enough.

I pointed out that none of us have any experience in psych evaluations specifically designed for the purpose in question. Since as far as I know none currently exists, you can't comment on its effectiveness. The whole argument is hypothetical, each side can raise points, but the rules of falsifiability still apply.

There are plenty of examples where civvies, police and military are equally powerless, but rather than exaggerating any weakness, why not try come up with some solutions. For the umpteenth time, I don't think it's a good idea or feasible... How is it that you're not understanding that and I'm getting accused of trying to argue for arguments sake?

God knows, all I did was state that I think a psych exam could catch out sociopaths and everyone jumped on me and started making accusations about points I never made...

We already covered that....

English isn't a proper degree. May as well give it to bloody drama and art grads

£7k should get you a RevUp (296hp version). Might be able to find an HR (313hp version) for the money, but it will probably be a big trade off for condition and mileage.

Nobody is making you, hence the term volunteer... And there's 6 pages of discussion on the effectiveness of psych tests to prevent EDL types being part of the SCS.

You're only as old as the woman you feel

Super Civvy Squad, keep up granddad

Funny, cos I could say the same.

Unless the terrorists purposefully direct attacks away from police presence. i still don't see the issue with filling in the gaps with the SCS.