The G Man

White one (very clean condition) parked up in the Loch Fyne Oyster Bar and another heading north from Dunoon. Great day for a drive out today 

Aye point away, I’m only reacting to the OP, and the continued rubbishing, that’s all.

Oh, I’m first on the list for a new house on Mars 

No sure, probably 

....and don’t start speed typing

4 minutes ago, coldel said:

To be honest you could go right back and pick out the dozens of “my mate knows it’s being launched at X motor show this year” it was all a load of old rubbish. I found one where it was a bang on certainty it was coming out in 2018 - it is obvious that there is lineage and at some point Nissan might launch another one but there were more incorrect claims about it being launched than not. 
 

Personally I’m not really one for going over old gossip and prefer to see stuff a little more concrete before getting excited, but hey that’s just me.

Yeah, that would be fair if you stuck to that, I posted a link to a previous thread that counteracts this viewpoint

More than happy to pick holes, yours are glaring.  

I am non fussed, I’ll have a look when it’s revealed, I’m not of the opinion, as you’re clearly, that it’s non existent, or rubbish.

I’ve picked holes in most of your assumptions and position, as it’s not tenable.

when it arrives, that’s the time to critic, you, as in you, cannot critic from a position of denial as to its creation, but also, my WHOLE point has been the incontrovertible and inconsistent position from those that wish to defend a position from no knowledge. 

It'll be what it is, I’ll look, as I’ve previously stated, at a new car that is in 2 seat variant, that comes to the market as a viable option.  

I will not dismiss, any new car, as you have done, that is in development, probably advanced development from a standpoint of, its rubbish.

That fair?

I did this as a reminder to those that have rubbished this subject from the beginning 

I’ll do the same to the brexshiteers when the time comes

On 30/03/2020 at 19:13, ilogikal1 said:

So their source is... another magazine. And yet Nissan know nothing about this themselves. Seems legit then.

 

Also, this means there will be a GTA6. My sources tell me it’ll be released yesterday in secret because the internet said.

On 14/04/2020 at 09:38, Ekona said:

 

I cannot see it happening. Ever. Auto maybe, but still it’s pie in the sky and nothing more than wishful thinking. 

To reinforce my point, 

2 minutes ago, Ekona said:

My point was I don’t hate all Zeds after the 350, rather than differentiating between the minutiae of the various models. And the mk1 is just fugly compared to the mk2, that’s my beef with that   
 

If the Z35 is indeed the same chassis as the Z34, as it looks like it is, then I’m gutted. That’s a ten year old car, not a new chassis like the Supra is even if it’s a BMW underneath. I want new Z cars to push boundaries and give prospective owners a budget car that keeps up with the competition, not merely plods along and is happy with selling a few hundred auto boxed cars in the States. Basically, I want a Zed that does for Nissan what the Mustang did for Ford five years ago. 

The ‘ minutiae’ as you put it, between the 370 and Mk1 is beyond the pale.  If what you are saying that it’s purely down to looks, then, your previous prevarications are null and void.

It either has to be, totally different, or a dress up,as you’ve now admitted, re Mk1-Mk2.

my point is, you have as much idea as to what the new Z is as the next person, however, you have taken the position that it can’t be as good because you didn’t believe it would happen.  

1 hour ago, Ekona said:

Any new performance car should be welcomed, but I just want one to be fresh and decent rather than a rehash. Like I said before, I want it to be brilliant, but Nissan seem to struggle giving us much hope on that front of late. 
 

I’m sure I said it’ll never happen, so if you want me to admit I was wrong I’m happy to do so. No problem at all with that, but I won’t get too excited until it’s here. I think that’s probably the same feeling for most of the naysayers too: No one here hates the Zed at all, we’re all fans (I’d still love a 370ZN mk2!), we’re only asking for a decent product at the end  

No, no Dan, that’s not my point that you were wrong.  I find it strange that you desire a Mk2 when it is no different, power wise, suspension wise and was not offered in bi transmission form from the Mk1.

I remember you saying that the Mk1 was hardly a ‘fire breathing variant of the 370’ which is correct , however apart from a few cosmetic changes, the Mk2 is no different, re power, engine, transmission, stance, difference (the same engine) from the Mk1.

There have even been ‘professional vendors’ on here that have rubbished the Mk1.  Not sure how many times you got under a Mk1 as a comparison to a stock 370 GT, or in fact a comparison of a Mk2 to a Mk1 ( there’s no difference btw).  They both had a wider wheelbase, both had completely different suspension components, both had a slight increase in power, they shared the same steering, the same suspension and the exact same engine, I can quote from Nissans quoted figures if required.

A different set of wheels, a different set of seats was, as you’ve put it ‘a rehash’ of what was already there.

Now the new Z, will definitely not be a ‘rehash’, it’ll be different, as much as the Toyota Supra now, is different from the ‘classic’ supra, whether you or anyone likes it is not applicable, the new generation of owners will decide.

I’m fine with you being wrong, jeezo, I’m wrong most of the time, but the blind ‘wrongness’ is, well, just wrong

5 hours ago, Ekona said:

At least one person has said exactly that, scarily enough!

 

I’m interested in a new Zed, but it doesn’t excite me from what I’ve heard and seen so far and how the car industry has evolved in recent times. The recent MX5 facelift/power hike and the 4.0L engine in a standard 718 have been about as exciting as it’s gotten for me, pure cars with more power  

Aye, but Dan, that’s one, there was, what felt like an overwhelming majority, in these threads, that rubbished the idea of a new Z.

What you’ve ‘heard’ and what you’ve ‘seen’, could be miles away from the finished product.  

We’ll find out in time, but the naysayers have been a bit sheepish of late, similar to the breshiteers that argued for that position, but could not give a particular reason why and, most of the ardent ones disappeared.

I suppose that, at the end of the day, when it does arrive, it’ll speak for itself, good or bad but it’ll exist

Jeezo, are you some sort of speed typer

12 minutes ago, coldel said:

Yes the Mustang was an amazing launch, totally nailed it and the new Z needs to be exactly that. As Dan says, just because I have tonnes of posts on here and owned a zed doesn't mean I will be running out the door the day the next one is launched with my finance sorted and throw it down on the table at my nearest Nissan dealer - I am open to quite a lot of brands (I drive a Vauxhall and proudly keep the badges on it FFS!) and I loved my zed but am very open to other cars and what new experiences they bring, and if the new Z is a just not on par with its peers I wont go near it.

Which on the whole is correct, if it’s not up to it’s peers at similar price, who would go near it.  It doesn’t stop you from being interested in it though.  The point being, on here, WE are interested in the Z heritage.

Also, it’s coming, that should be scope enough for being positive about it, if it turns out cack, then stay away, simple formula there.  No one is advocating in the slightest running to the nearest dealer with a big bag of money and immediately throwing it down on one blind, I must have missed that on all the threads re this subject.

What I didn’t miss was the negativity to this car, from the ones who said it would never happen, after it happened 

Oh, Nissan posted profits down 10%, so it may be delayed

4 hours ago, Ekona said:

But the 350Z was a brand new car offering the enthusiast a budget but muscular drivers car, not a rehash of a ten year old model with an auto box and a price tag that won’t let them get away with poor plastics inside again. 
 

Look, even I realise how negative I sound. If it comes out and it’s modern but classic, offering two transmissions and an engine that’s genuinely interesting for a price that dips under the £40k tax barrier, then I’ll be very interested. Hell, if it can offer three of those I’ll still take a serious look. 

Yeah that would be a feat.  In 2015/16 Ford did just that, muscular drivers car, option of two transmissions, very interesting engine for 35k.  The downside, if it can be described as that, is, the next manifestation will be hybrid.  That’s what I believe Nissan will do with the next gen Z, I’d say it’s almost a certainty.

who knows, but the naysayers on a new Z were wrong, as has been said, it’s hilarious to read back on the threads to those purporting that there would be no new Z.  Whatever it is, it’ll be interesting and provoke interest, positive and negative.

How can anyone on this community not be enthusiastic at the prospect of a new Z?

Comments like, ‘I’ll never buy one’, who cares, we have no idea what it is, but we know now that it is on the way, looking forward to it arriving

I’m sure MPS4S come in 255?

12 minutes ago, Reg97 said:

Covid compliance was in order, plenty of elbow bumps instead of handshakes 

That’s reassuring, I’m sure, if only we’d done that from the start of the pandemic  

2 hours ago, ShortPaul said:

Where are the pics 

Exactly, hopefully no embarrassing non Covid complying ones 

The ratio would suggest not, however I’d balk at 265 on the fronts, especially 305 on the rear, I don’t see an advantage over stock sizes.  I’m sure I’ve seen 285 35 on PS4s?

43 minutes ago, ATTAK Z said:

Things are getting bad again in Melbourne

 

FFS Hugh!  

......and wear a ‘kin mask/face covering.

Out of interest, what is the current government rules?

The RX8, pound for pound, was the most usable car I’ve ever had, with the caveat, only on flat type roads.  On the Stelvio Pass, it was sh1te.  A MX5 is on my radar, but, again, with the caveat that it’s a fun, useable type car, but totally impractical as a GT.

Both my 370’s we’re competent GT’s but the compromise was not a car you would GT in.

Mustang, torque, proper GT, comfortable and uncomplicated, would be my choice over the previous.  

Looking for a F type or similar for a 3rd car but only in convertible mode, more for enjoying the dry weather.

wouldnt contemplate a ‘classic’, as too unreliable, not a Euro tourer and mostly, uncomfortable

I wouldn’t go to you, you seem angry, and you’re too far away, good luck with the charm offensive though.

ive nothing bad to say about your company or any individual employed by you.  We know things are tough, but I’m not sure this type of post on an open forum will help.

’Always end on a high’ (an old MOI technique), I’ve only ever heard congratulatory posts about your company and the work you do, by many ‘senior’ type admins, mods, members etc..