Husky

mate if any of us thought for one second that you could get a date out of a post like that this would be a very different forum maybe it would be called hmm... match.com a ripping indeed, how could it be anything else

omg mate You are going to get killed for this one, i would delete it, i sense a 30pager coming

i dont know i think i did a pretty fair job of ramping the post rate at first would be more than happy to leave the title to you

i think im going to fall in love with the 370 not for what nissans done but the modding opportunities. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv07ZgaTwZ8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOPZE1SvnmU

+1 Scott you may coin the new term SHOW PLENUM :lol:

Show use only would be for legal purposes only. If you choose to use it as an actual plenum it moves the liability onto you as its being used outwith the inteded purpose. no?? of course you would use it all the time as your actual plenum!

Scott, although you may not find any direct statements of insurance/guarantee relating to the faulty plenum causing damage, and they just mention guarantees of failure of the plenum iteslf, the product would still be covered under the sale of goods act. If the product is not fit for purpose and fails then the seller would be liable not only for the cost of the product, but if damage to any other component is directly attributable to the faulty product, they would also be liable for repairs to the other components. This is why the R&D is a highly important process. Although it may seem like some have put a dampener on this product, I feel they could be sving you from a VERY expensive legal minefield. Though if you do press ahead with the product, I can only suggest that you consult with an appropriate legal representative who should be able to inform you of all the necessary insurances you will need. It may also be the case that as the part is integral to the safe function of a motor vehicle that there are certain standards and tests which have to be passed in order to legally sell the product. This is certainly the case with tyre manufacturers, brake pad manufacturers and wheel manufacturers etc.. So could be worth some more investigation before placing this on any road going vehicle. The above is meant to be constructive, so please dont construe this a poo pooing your idea. +1 Possibly a way out of this though is to merely be a distributor of the plenums as you do not manufacture them, this way the carbon company would take the responsibility. im not saying you should go without the relevant protection, just a thought.

stating that it is for show use only may be a good idea, i dont know how effective this would be in a legal sense but saying something to the effect of: This product is intended for show purposes only, it is not intended for any long term or strenuous use such as racing or road use. The product should be removed if the engine is to be run beyond idle. ETC ETC? maybe sarnie will know? hes your insurance man.. maybe the wrong kind of insurance but it cant hurt to ask. On a different note. If the company has lots of experience etc. and from the sound of things with heat tolerances, strenght etc i would guess they will be fine IMO

I see the joke in this, but it's one thing to have carbon dress-up items and carbon items that have a major function in your car, i.e. part of the engine. I know mate i was taking an extreme example to make a point

all fair points unfortunately i hate to be negative but it has to be done Insurance is a DEFINATE for any product no matter how small, if someone even so much as cut a finger on a sharp edge and you dont have the proper warning labels it could cost you

As long as you have your 6sigma done on it the best way to simulate the forces exerted on it is in a real life test tbh, testing on a bench can never cover all possible variables applied to the car

My thoughts would be to do the tests in stages so if any faults occur you can trace them and it makes fault finding simple. You should ideally have an inspection sheet in my mind that you fill in every time you run a test. each test should have numerical test requirments (eg revs, range, temperature, etc) and the tests must be repeatable. the inspection should be looking for things that can be proved not guess work (eg the plenum cracked not the plenum might have cracked). The test suites should be designed around the areas or situations that require investigation (temperature, revs, longevity, torsional stiffness in corners). Also realistically more than one plenum should be tested to ensure there are no manufacturing variances. The supplier should have the correct quality standards in place also. I dont want to ramble too much but you get the idea. figure out what you want to investigate first, then design the test round this.

but hes not grumpy, more a mixture of rage and self defence

There is, but i believe he wants to see the possible fitment issues proved/discovered/resolved first, a sensible option.

You

LMAO What a tit

This is nearly as confusing as the Japspeed group buy thread Ok to clarify .... if we all chuck in £6.70 then we should be able to get a 370z if we all chuck in £13.43 we should be able to get a GTR Simples 1. Tarmac 2. Nixy (for offering me a burger) 3. husky (still confused and doubtfull) 4 4470. Sarnie (you can have it last)

apparently he thought it'd be a big job removing the interior he had frost interior which is apparently semi rare also the point company said the smell will never go away

the response i find quite comical is this one: http://my350z.com/forum/exterior-and-in ... nside.html

I wondered if someone would! 7mpg baby! just read up on this what an ugly beast!

Came up every few weeks for about 2 years! oh dear, talk about de-valuing your car

what do you think this is. This isn't my full time job He already has a hobby:

i cant do this in the office just now

Hmm never had any issues with it, used it for years. What would you suggest then? R +1 and LMAO years ago they actually let virus's out they had the cure to, to make some dosh. its invasive, system resource hogging EVIL. i run comodo myself, is lovely.