StephenG Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 My 'beater' is in the bodyshop, so I'm having to use the Z for journeys I wouldn't normally - i.e., work. Hence I drove it to Chertsey Weds, and Southampton yesterday. All good (despite the terrible feeling I get leaving it parked on a public road in a town centre), but on Wednesday, the roads were quite damp. And then I suddenly realised... in all my time owning and driving this car, I've never had it on a wet road with the supercharger on. And my God is it hairy. Hairy, in fact, at speeds so low that it would be the same without the charger attached. Blip the throttle in almost any gear at almost any speed and traction brakes instantly - on all 4 wheels sometimes - such that the ESP can't help you. I was overtaking on the motorway at 80mph, quite leisurely, and then blipped the throttle a touch too hard and suddenly I was sliding across the lanes. Teeth-gritting stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptist Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Sounds like your tyres are on the blink, mine never used to do that with the blower on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathys Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Get goodyear F1 and you'll be suprised what you can do in the rain. You still need to be careful though, but I normally pass all traffic at +- 90mph. Even when it's raining heavily, with 275 on the rear wheels.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prescience Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 My 'beater' is in the bodyshop, so I'm having to use the Z for journeys I wouldn't normally - i.e., work. Hence I drove it to Chertsey Weds, and Southampton yesterday. All good (despite the terrible feeling I get leaving it parked on a public road in a town centre), but on Wednesday, the roads were quite damp. And then I suddenly realised... in all my time owning and driving this car, I've never had it on a wet road with the supercharger on. And my God is it hairy. Hairy, in fact, at speeds so low that it would be the same without the charger attached. Blip the throttle in almost any gear at almost any speed and traction brakes instantly - on all 4 wheels sometimes - such that the ESP can't help you. I was overtaking on the motorway at 80mph, quite leisurely, and then blipped the throttle a touch too hard and suddenly I was sliding across the lanes. Teeth-gritting stuff! Stephen, I had the same experience on a dual carriageway with Toyo T1Rs - not a nice feeling at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Good to know I'm not on my own there. Bap - I have lots of tread left, and they're Bridgestone Potenzas, which aren't known for being too shoddy in the wet, though I haven't ruled them out. That said, it's not the speed that appeared to be the problem, but the rear end lightening up under power. I was wondering if my aftermarket spoiler is actually lifting the car up, but that would imply it was speed related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomoto Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 When I first had my Zed , it was doing this all the time , swopped the tyres (Bridgestones of course ) and never had the problem again ps put the Falken 452 on as replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 The problem with the Potenzas (particularly on this car as they're a harder compound) is that they need a lot of heat in them to work well, hence in the rain they're worse. Change em mate, that'll sort it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 must be the driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 When I first had my Zed , it was doing this all the time , swopped the tyres (Bridgestones of course ) and never had the problem again ps put the Falken 452 on as replacement Good shout on the Bridgies, but Falkens? Never in a month of Sundays!!! I had the Falkens on my old Celica, they were absolutely lethal in the wet - really - like trying to balance a penny on a beachball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 it's also true that tyre behaviour changes a lot from car to car though, so i've heard anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 I had falkens 451 (i think) on a 1.2 nova and they struggled to handle the 45bhp that it produced! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomoto Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 When I first had my Zed , it was doing this all the time , swopped the tyres (Bridgestones of course ) and never had the problem again ps put the Falken 452 on as replacement Good shout on the Bridgies, but Falkens? Never in a month of Sundays!!! I had the Falkens on my old Celica, they were absolutely lethal in the wet - really - like trying to balance a penny on a beachball. you cant judge tyres from car to car!! these are the latest 452's.. I doubt you've tried these, but anyway anything will be better than the God awful Bridgestones I have Continental on my 19" wheels now but I still think the Falkens shade it over these even Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 ps put the Falken 452 on as replacement Good shout on the Bridgies, but Falkens? Never in a month of Sundays!!! I had the Falkens on my old Celica, they were absolutely lethal in the wet - really - like trying to balance a penny on a beachball. you cant judge tyres from car to car!! these are the latest 452's.. I doubt you've tried these, but anyway anything will be better than the God awful Bridgestones I have Continental on my 19" wheels now but I still think the Falkens shade it over these even I've got the Falks 452s on (following lomoto's recommendation AGES ago) and they've been great, tons of grip in the dry and decent in the wet too. A massive improvement over the 'stones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hmmm. Changing tyres is a £900 expense for me... I'll just avoid rainy days for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomoto Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hmmm. Changing tyres is a £900 expense for me... I'll just avoid rainy days for now Bloody hell stephen where the F**K do you get your tyres from??? about half that is proper price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 for 4 * 19" wheels? 2 * £250 rear, 2 * £200 front. Remember I have 9.5" wide rims at the back. And that price is fitted (no small effort). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomoto Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 for 4 * 19" wheels? 2 * £250 rear, 2 * £200 front. Remember I have 9.5" wide rims at the back. And that price is fitted (no small effort). HMMMM mmm same as me then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Eh? You just said you could get them half price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomoto Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Eh? You just said you could get them half price. think mine cost £600 for the 19" fitted balanced to the rims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Quads Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Makes my £450 sounds like a steal for 19s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Definitely. What make/size you guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomoto Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Just found the bill for em £550 for 245/35/19 and 275 /19's Conti's.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Quads Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Thats a good price Mine was also for the same 245/35/19 and 275 /19s but on 452s. Before finding a friend of a friend the cheapest I could find was £530 + fitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Gosh, I was arse-raped then. I got Bridgestone Potenza S-03's though - not cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomoto Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Gosh, I was arse-raped then. I got Bridgestone Potenza S-03's though - not cheap. YOU BOUGHT BRIDGESTONES VOLUNTARILY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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