stuRS Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I've been having a bit of a panic recently as my drivers door is jammed/locked/stuck/f*cked. It will not open from inside or out. The lock mech is working, it just will not open. I've lost patience with it and attacked the door card (not a happy bunny) and even with full access to the 2 cables for the inside door handle, it's not doing anything. If anyone is a specialist with the lock mechs I would be very greatful for a PM with some info on how to open the door. tried coat hangers, hot water, DW40, screw drivers - all sorts. I just want my car to be useable again. Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I've been having a bit of a panic recently as my drivers door is jammed/locked/stuck/f*cked. It will not open from inside or out. The lock mech is working, it just will not open. I've lost patience with it and attacked the door card (not a happy bunny) and even with full access to the 2 cables for the inside door handle, it's not doing anything. If anyone is a specialist with the lock mechs I would be very greatful for a PM with some info on how to open the door. tried coat hangers, hot water, DW40, screw drivers - all sorts. I just want my car to be useable again. Thanks guys Has this just happend with the change in the weather? i,e since the snow came back and it went frosty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 It happened over a week ago now, I've tried heating it up but it just won't do anything. There is no resistance on the door handle either. I've searched high and low for this problem but no-one seems to have the same 'symtoms' as me. I think it probably is to do with the cold weather, but I can't just climb through the passanger door till July! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Can you get to the two cables that run from the door lock on the inside?? If you can, they should be hooked into plastic pieces where the internal door handle is. Both should be taught. The one with a ball on the end is to open the door and the one with a straight hook type end is for the locking mechanism. Maybe the cables have stretched & they may not work by just pulling the interior door handle. Is the interior door handle under tension?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 this may seem stupid but have you tried lowering the window? if it dosen't drop automatically you can't open the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 Thanks everyone for your help. Ive been working with the window right down so it's not that auto-dip thing. I have jimmy'd the door card off the door (after doing my best to follow the removal guides) and I have disconnected the 2 cables from the back of the internal handle. The 'T' shape cable is tought and operating well, the ball ended cable has no movement and is slack. Everyone keeps telling me to just take it to a Nissan dealer, but I have zero faith in some monkey that services Micras for a living doing a better job than me. If this ball ended cable is slack does that pin point the issue to a stiff/stuck latch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Thanks everyone for your help. Ive been working with the window right down so it's not that auto-dip thing. I have jimmy'd the door card off the door (after doing my best to follow the removal guides) and I have disconnected the 2 cables from the back of the internal handle. The 'T' shape cable is tought and operating well, the ball ended cable has no movement and is slack. Everyone keeps telling me to just take it to a Nissan dealer, but I have zero faith in some monkey that services Micras for a living doing a better job than me. If this ball ended cable is slack does that pin point the issue to a stiff/stuck latch? IIRC both cables should be tight. I know when fitting my handles back that it was a pain cause they both had to be tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 oh and i know its not helpful but by the sounds of things the slack cable may be your problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I know this may be a crackpot idea but have you thought about removing the pax door card so you can see how it all goes together (or apart!) and looked at the locks on there? I know they are not identical but it may help you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 might be worth a call to the rac/aa and they'll at least find the fault for you. did this with a honda a few years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 Not a bad idea, but I'm not a member of any motoring groups. I'm fairly comfortable with most mechanics but I'm trying to apply logic for once So this loose ball ended cable - what are the posibilities? If this was disconnected at the latch end, would that also render the outside handle useless? Unfortunately the car is a mile away at my parents as there is better lighting there. I left a little while ago with bleeding hands, so can't take any pics tonight - a valid use for smilie though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 You have pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo-ninja Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 personally i think y9our mad, as it might be nothing to do with your cableing in the door! it could be something very simple, and a garage will be able to tell you! (unless of course your are a trained merchanic with experiance in these things!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 Having visited my local Nissan Dealer, I really don't think they are going you have more experience of the inner door workings than everyone on here. At the end of the day it's just grown up mechano, so I'm not scared to take things apart. As I look down the inside of the door I can see a dog legged rod that seems to drop from the exterior handle down into the lock mechanism, it has a bright blue rubber grommet at the base. Is this the magic part? As this isn't moving at all when I lock/unlock/pull the handles. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 The dog leg one is for the locking mechanism and the round one pops the door open. Just a thought, have you tried unlocking the door with the key in case the central locking has gone on that door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhavin85 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 As I look down the inside of the door I can see a dog legged rod that seems to drop from the exterior handle down into the lock mechanism, it has a bright blue rubber grommet at the base. Is this the magic part? As this isn't moving at all when I lock/unlock/pull the handles. That dog legged rod should be moving...that is what actually opens the door...have you tried pulling that lever up? When I changed my door handles over, I refitted them and had the same issue with the door handle having no slack...it turned out to be that dog legged rod wasnt sitting in the blue rubber grommet properly...gave that a push and it all worked. On a side note...have you tried unlocking the door manually with the key then trying the handle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 Yeah I've dried unlocking with the key. After I fiddle with something I repeatedly lock/unlock with the key and the buttons on the off chance in springs into life. So do you think I should be pushing or pulling the dog legged bar then? Can you try and describe the action it would take if fully functional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 If the door is unlocked then you need to pull on the cable. The metal end is connected to the cable which then goes into it's plastic housing. You need to hold the plastic housing and pull the metal bit. The door then "in theory" should pop open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 When I pull the ball ended cable I get nothing, I get no feel from it either i.e no sprung feeling on cable or anything. I'm pretty sure the cables aren't at fault and it's whatever the cables run to that's seized. Trouble is, due to the extremely limited access (through the 1inch gap for window) I cannot see anything, feel anything - it's a nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Do you have the service manual? There is a section in there that details the door locks, and might help you out, you need section BL-82. I cant post it from work as Photobucket doesnt work from here. PM me an email address and I can forward it on if you like? Or there is a download link around here somewhere but I forget it Admitedly it doesnt show you much, but going in blind, it does show you where the bits are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 Excellent thanks mate, that would be very helpful. I presumed that information on lock mechs online is restricted to stop little sods nicking our cars. It's 'round 2' when I get back from work tonight. Going to start with a borrowed fan heater then try and push down on the dog legged rod under the handle - what you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Excellent thanks mate, that would be very helpful. I presumed that information on lock mechs online is restricted to stop little sods nicking our cars. It's 'round 2' when I get back from work tonight. Going to start with a borrowed fan heater then try and push down on the dog legged rod under the handle - what you think? service manual is in the guides section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Excellent thanks mate, that would be very helpful. I presumed that information on lock mechs online is restricted to stop little sods nicking our cars. It's 'round 2' when I get back from work tonight. Going to start with a borrowed fan heater then try and push down on the dog legged rod under the handle - what you think? service manual is in the guides section viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2945 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Good patience!! If it was me I would have had the drimel out and cut it off and then got hold a door card! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 I've kind of pulled the door card back so I've got some room, but it hasn't really helped. I had to 'help' it with a screwdriver so I think I might need to replace it now. I rekon heat is my best approach - I will get the door nice and warm, then scratch my arse for a bit, then lock/unlock. Technical stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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