NWZ Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Another thread on Azure blue front bumper resprays. I've read horror stories about getting a match from a respray. I've spoken to a breaker who's got an azure blue front bumper. If I was to buy it would the colour match be the same or do the colours in azure blue differ between the years the cars were originally sprayed i.e. are there still different azue blue colour codes? I'm just wondering to take the risk in buying a second hand bumper vs the hassle or getting mine resprayed. My front bumper is chipped to death and I damaged it a couple of weeks ago when jet washing - not much give in that plastic is there! Any advice appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Not an easy colour to match..... I'm onlt aware of one paint ccode bud but others might no differently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 +1 As far as I know, there is only one Azure code. It is a pain to match though. My original Veilside kit was a horrible match when it was first done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The ESR guy is very good at matching the azure. He would need the car and bumper though and is in Sunderalnd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanS16 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 My front bumper is still slightly off. You can only notice it in the light though. Pretty sure that Azure is Azure, i've never noticed differences in different MYs. EDIT- The guy that sprayed mine was the ESR guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madden Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Im just going throught the same thing. I brought an Azure rear bumper of a different car and the colour was complelty out compared to the car. My whole car is getting resprayed now as most of the panel need paint. Only way to match it is a whole blow over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWZ Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 Thanks guys, seems to be turning out to be a pain in the arse. I think I'll live with my stone chips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 out of interest to finish the thread nicely, what is the paint code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWZ Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 will it be on the touch up bottles? I have one somewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 iirc it is B17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 thanks, thought it was good tohave on the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig782 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Bumpers never really match metal bodywork nomatter what the colour, a lot of it is to do with bumpers being plastic. The static build up is higher in plastic parts and causes the metallic particles to react in a different way than on steel, hence a `colour` change. Its not really a change in colour but the way the light hits the particles and reflects different shades. Temperature and humidity will also affect colours, mostly lighter metallics, as will air pressure at the gun and someone else painting a different part of the car even with the same paint from the same gun! I think manufacturers will not guarentee a match on plastic parts even though bodyshops are expected to when doing a repair but could be wrong. Remeber also they will be mixing very small amounts of paint so harder to get the exact mix correct although with todays technology it is very close even with the smallest amounts. Saying that you could mix 25 gallons and still not get the right shade. Normally a good painter will pick a the closest variant from a colour chip, spray it out on a card, clear coat it, check for match then maybe tint to suit or try a different variant. If you really look hard at the bumpers to bodywork you will probably notice a slight difference even from factory. So what i got carried away in saying is the trick is to find a really good painter who will just get the best match they can. Good luck buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWZ Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 Gone for a cheaper option and sourced a second hand azure bumper. Can't harm in trying.... will soon get splattered in stone chips again when the summer comes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 It's also worth noting that body shops don't use the original 'official' Nissan paint, not even if you go via a main dealer. There's two main companies in the paint world who make all the different colours anyone could ever want, but they're all based on their interpretation of the colour. When I had my tow eye cover done (under warranty) it looked a mile out so I spoke to the chap who did it and he showed me the two colour samples from the two companies, and although they should both have been spot-on one was clearly a slightly darker colour and had more flakes in than the one they used. He put the sample over different parts of the car and it was a very good match in the end, and it was simply the angle & differing materials on the car that made the colour look off. I'll have to get my bumper done sooner rather than later, and I'll go back to the same place again. Sollis Panelcraft in Harlow in case anyone's interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Hope this gives you hope http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic ... 157#277157 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matth76 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Don't know if it's me or the angle and light but occasionally my petrol cap on my azure 350 looks very very slightly lighter than the surrounding metal. I'm not overly bothered by it but either it has had a respray (for some reason just on the petrol cap, or the panel around the petrol cap) or the light makes it looks different sometimes as it is right on the curve of the wheel arch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Don't know if it's me or the angle and light but occasionally my petrol cap on my azure 350 looks very very slightly lighter than the surrounding metal. I'm not overly bothered by it but either it has had a respray (for some reason just on the petrol cap, or the panel around the petrol cap) or the light makes it looks different sometimes as it is right on the curve of the wheel arch. You're lucky it's just' very very slightly lighter' as most are bad! It's the fact that the petrol cap is plastic and the rear quarter panel is metal. Nothing to worry about bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MITZ@CougarStore Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Don't know if it's me or the angle and light but occasionally my petrol cap on my azure 350 looks very very slightly lighter than the surrounding metal. I'm not overly bothered by it but either it has had a respray (for some reason just on the petrol cap, or the panel around the petrol cap) or the light makes it looks different sometimes as it is right on the curve of the wheel arch. It’s because the petrol cap cover is plastic, the paint sits differently compared the surrounding area… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Beat you again dude! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MITZ@CougarStore Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Beat you again dude! :lol: Faster BB connection needed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.T Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Bumpers never really match metal bodywork nomatter what the colour, a lot of it is to do with bumpers being plastic. The static build up is higher in plastic parts and causes the metallic particles to react in a different way than on steel, hence a `colour` change. Its not really a change in colour but the way the light hits the particles and reflects different shades. Temperature and humidity will also affect colours, mostly lighter metallics, as will air pressure at the gun and someone else painting a different part of the car even with the same paint from the same gun! I think manufacturers will not guarentee a match on plastic parts even though bodyshops are expected to when doing a repair but could be wrong. Remeber also they will be mixing very small amounts of paint so harder to get the exact mix correct although with todays technology it is very close even with the smallest amounts. Saying that you could mix 25 gallons and still not get the right shade. Normally a good painter will pick a the closest variant from a colour chip, spray it out on a card, clear coat it, check for match then maybe tint to suit or try a different variant. If you really look hard at the bumpers to bodywork you will probably notice a slight difference even from factory. So what i got carried away in saying is the trick is to find a really good painter who will just get the best match they can. Good luck buddy So true.. my colour looks different on every plastic itemed panel then on metal and even on metal if keep staring at you will start to see alsorts of things going on, very good to look at the temper but when your picky like me and have a tendancy of washing the car personally, you notice everything good or bad.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matth76 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I know what you mean about washing your car - you find all the nice imperfections and small scratches Does look nice when waxed though! Cheers about the petrol cap. Didn't realise it was actually plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madden Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Yea i have just had my whole car resprayed again and it had come out alot darker and alot more pearly. Is there anyone around the Camberley area with an Azure 350 so i could compare it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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