neodc Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Hi guys, i just got the motodyne spacer, in its instructions its says all the stuff needs to be tightened by inches tq, not lbft, at the back of the manual it says if you dont have one then do it by hand, and just go easy with it, its safe to do it by hand.. I have been everywhere in my town, to guys with toolboxes with 20ks worth of equipment in and noone has a inch tourque wrench. Out of all the people on here, who did it by hand, or lowest ftlb setting, or found a inch tq tool Cheers Dave Quote
GIXXERUK Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Cant you just convert the settings ? thats what i do, from imperial to metric Quote
neodc Posted January 3, 2009 Author Posted January 3, 2009 the numbers involved are only like 20 to 70 inchs /lb, that on its own is lower than a few ftlb, the smallest ftlb tool we got is like 5ftbl Quote
GIXXERUK Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 http://www.aclassinfo.co.uk/mypage.100.htm 15 -20 is just nipped up, slightly more than hand tight i've got a few torque wrenches, got one from screwfix that works for lower settings Quote
IanS16 Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 I did it by hand and had no problems at all. Quote
Stew Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Just tried to attach convert.exe but it's not allowed. Try a search for it. It's an excellent little program that I use every day at work! Whop said getting black goo out the ground was easy..... Quote
InsanezeD Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Hi, sorry to cut in here but I am just curious as to what a plenum spacer is and what are the benefits of fitting one? Quote
Stew Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 The plenum spacer is exactly that. Ibrings the front of the plenum up so more air goes to the front two cylinders. It gives an improvement in midrange and it probably the best NA mod you can actually do. Quote
InsanezeD Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 So you're increasing the volume of air induced in the front two cylinders, for there to be any benefit you'll need the extra fuel, ie a remap I'd have thought? Quote
Stew Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Nope. Well maybe to get a 'power gain' but you notice the increase in mid range straight away (well I did with my V+ plenum replacement) It's sorting a problem really as it even up the air distribution I believe. Quote
Stew Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Around a couple of hundred squid I believe. A kinetix V+ is a little more Quote
InsanezeD Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 That wants to be a pretty good noticeable difference for that price, I wonder how it might feel coupled with an uprated fuel pressure regulator... Quote
Stew Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 That wants to be a pretty good noticeable difference for that price, I wonder how it might feel coupled with an uprated fuel pressure regulator... Not something I'm seen run on NA Zeds. The thing is, the ECU cancels out most mods however it can't cancel the plenum. I thought it was fairly cheap actually.... Quote
neodc Posted January 3, 2009 Author Posted January 3, 2009 3 hours later, all fitted and tested, got a bit cold after a while outside, 2 man job, does pull better, nothing amazing, but had a better improvement than the 1000 quid exhaust, and 100 quid jwt thats on it. Quote
IanS16 Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Glad to hear you got it on mate. Thought you would be waiting till tomorrow Quote
InsanezeD Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Not something I'm seen run on NA Zeds. The thing is, the ECU cancels out most mods however it can't cancel the plenum. I thought it was fairly cheap actually.... Why not, the ECU governs the injectors, not the fuel pressure regulator doesn't it? Quote
Stew Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 Don't know much about them and never seen them fitted. Someone like Adam@Z1 would advise though I#m sure. Quote
Kevo Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 Correct me if i'm wrong - pretty sure i'm not though but uprated fuel pressure regulators don't make any noticable difference (eg. 1 bhp) on NA cars, or cars without a lot of work anyway. I fitted one to one of my old cars, and it made absolutely no difference. Surely the standard FPR can deal with pumping that little more fuel in anyway. Is the point of the spacer just to free up the starvation to the front two cylinders anyway, so you wouldn't need that extra pressure, unless the car is specificly set up to pump less fuel into them cylinders than the others anyway? Plus if you are bypassing the ecu (if it doesn't pick up on a higher fuel pressure) then it surely will pick it up on the lambda sensors anyhoo - just think that would be a total waste of money as im sure they will be over £200 - for a couple of bhp at most. You would have to couple it with uprated injectors and pump as well. Quote
InsanezeD Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 You're right, but we arn't looking for a power gain, just improving midrange torque. Quote
Chris`I Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 The idea of the plenum spacer is the following The Motordyne plenum spacers alleviate an airflow restriction that exists above the first two intake runner inlets. The inside top of the stock plenum is very close to the top of the lower plenum runner inlets. There is only about 1/8" clearance between the first two inlets and the plenum cover. This creates a significant air flow restriction that reduces engine breathing and power output. By removing this restriction you add more mid range power by allowing the front 2 cylinders to burn the fuel more efficiently. I also beleive that this was included in the newer revisions of the engine (07 onwards?) Quote
InsanezeD Posted January 17, 2009 Posted January 17, 2009 I've been looking at the Skunk2 plenum spacer, they are quoting dyno proven 10WHP increase. Quote
Stew Posted January 17, 2009 Posted January 17, 2009 I would doubt that is peak power though. It's the midrange that becomes even stronger with this! Quote
Darren-B Posted January 17, 2009 Posted January 17, 2009 I've been looking at the Skunk2 plenum spacer, they are quoting dyno proven 10WHP increase. They must have had the handbrake up on the 1st run, Quote
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