ab350z Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I know there's a few folk on here in the IT industry, thought it'd be best place to ask this - I'm away to start a new job as a sharepoint developer and although the job offers 'on the job training', i've been eyeing up the Microsoft certs, more for my CV than anything else. Looking for books on the subject but its a bit of a labyrinth. Has anyone done any Sharepoint development and can point me in the direction of some good literature to get my face stuck into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Am in IT training Will have a butchers in the catalogues and emails in the office and give you a shout on Monday. Hmmm On the Job training... 5 days out the office on a dedicated course is worth a couple of months of on the job... you do the course first and then get the experience! You need both to be fair! I may even have something lying about in the office I could send you. Whos the job with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab350z Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 Its a local IT outsourcer, pretty smale scale outfit starting a software division as clients are asking for Sharepoint solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zummertor Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 "on the job training" may be fine for learning how to do things but you are right to think about your CV. There are many companies that when they buy IT services specify the standard of training that a providers staff must have. Government work has of course an ever increasing set of requirements. I would recommend you do push to get the "pieces of paper" as well they may not tell how good you are but they will often open a door to get an interview or to get your CV considered in the future. Rarely do people make the most of what they've achieved on CVs, even a lot of the so called professional CV writing is not what it could be. When you write statements on your CV or any annual appraisal type of form you need to try and get across a few things that describe the Situation in which you did the work, the actual Task you performed, the Actions you did and what the Result was. Not always possible but keep it in mind (STAR). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 "on the job training" may be fine for learning how to do things but you are right to think about your CV. There are many companies that when they buy IT services specify the standard of training that a providers staff must have. Government work has of course an ever increasing set of requirements. I would recommend you do push to get the "pieces of paper" as well they may not tell how good you are but they will often open a door to get an interview or to get your CV considered in the future. Rarely do people make the most of what they've achieved on CVs, even a lot of the so called professional CV writing is not what it could be. When you write statements on your CV or any annual appraisal type of form you need to try and get across a few things that describe the Situation in which you did the work, the actual Task you performed, the Actions you did and what the Result was. Not always possible but keep it in mind (STAR). +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Chris Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I work a lot in the area of EDRMS systems. Without going into detail, suffice it to say that Sharepoint is a hot product and is exactly the right area to be going into. You won't find it too hard to get a job and get some decent wages. Believe it or not, Local Government is a good place to start. You may have to be prepared to move farther afield to find the ideal job but there are some big councils not too far from you which may be worth trying when you have finished your course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab350z Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Totally agree with the CV stuff. I'm looking at moving to Oz towards the end of 2009 and the CV needs padded out with proper qualifications before then. There's plenty going in Aberdeen just now, still quite a lively oil industry with a lot of smaller companies seeing considerable growth still and the company i'm going to are targeting these people to market Sharepoint solutions to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zummertor Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Totally agree with the CV stuff. I'm looking at moving to Oz towards the end of 2009 and the CV needs padded out with proper qualifications before then. There's plenty going in Aberdeen just now, still quite a lively oil industry with a lot of smaller companies seeing considerable growth still and the company i'm going to are targeting these people to market Sharepoint solutions to. Don't pad or lie on a CV, I'm sure you have already done plenty and will do more. If you aren't sure about how to start, take a note pad and write down in notes on what you did in the last year or so remembering STAR, often helpful to go back through your diary that might remind you of those "little" extra things you've done. A good IT industry in Oz so expect you have a good chance of being successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab350z Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Nah nah would never lie, just feel that after my degree and ITIL i've not got much paper qualifications on it so was looking for a Sharepoint one to do under my own speed, whatever the industry standard is, like MCSE but for Sharepoint. Think there's a Microsoft Developer qualification I'd like to work towards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_350z Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 develop cleaspace instead? http://www.jivesoftware.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Best place to learn about Microsoft (and their ever changing cert paths) is http://www.microsoft.com/learning/default.mspx. The cert path you are prob looking at is Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS) in Apps dev or config. Not much available on the Instructor Led training on 2007 at the moment. 5 Day Developing with SharePoint Server 2007 at £1895 for a 5 day course and 5 Day Advanced Sharepoint Development at £1495. I can get you discounts on these but not many places in Scotland will be delivering yet. I think the closest is Manchester! Whilst your looking at Sharepoint, you want to be looking at other MS packages namely OCS and Dynamics. Its all to do with presence, remote working and easily sharing information.. All the products will be working as one to provide some pretty cool collaborative solutions. We have been doing some great work with it so far and our clients are well pleased! Drop me a PM if you need anymore info and some further costs, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Best place to learn about Microsoft (and their ever changing cert paths) is http://www.microsoft.com/learning/default.mspx. The cert path you are prob looking at is Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS) in Apps dev or config. Not much available on the Instructor Led training on 2007 at the moment. 5 Day Developing with SharePoint Server 2007 at £1895 for a 5 day course and 5 Day Advanced Sharepoint Development at £1495. I can get you discounts on these but not many places in Scotland will be delivering yet. I think the closest is Manchester! Whilst your looking at Sharepoint, you want to be looking at other MS packages namely OCS and Dynamics. Its all to do with presence, remote working and easily sharing information.. All the products will be working as one to provide some pretty cool collaborative solutions. We have been doing some great work with it so far and our clients are well pleased! Drop me a PM if you need anymore info and some further costs, Mark £2k is an Aberdeen day rate for a lot of guys. It'd have to be a grippy company to quibble about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab350z Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 Managed to persuade the new company to put me on a 5 day developer course at some point, they're just sorting out the details. Reckon it'd be much more beneficial than sitting with my face in a book in the office! Result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 If you want to give me a shout when your ready to book I will see what I can do for you :-) Well done on the negotations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_350z Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 2 grand a day? for IT? in aberdeen? NAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Not for IT. That's what they charge the clients for people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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