SunGodRA Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I have had my zed for 6 months now - its an 02 import with approx 36k on clock. When a friend drove it the other day he commented on how high the clutch bite is; I hadnt really thought anything of it before but he is right - the bite is on the last 5% of the pedal. Is this common with zed's or an early sign that my clutch is on its way out? Is the clutch self adjusting or can it be done manually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 If the clutch is wearing then you are the best bet to know if the biting point has changed? It can be high, no bad thing for quick gear changes . Not sure about the adjustability of it though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 If the clutch is wearing then you are the best bet to know if the biting point has changed? It can be high, no bad thing for quick gear changes . Not sure about the adjustability of it though... +1 - mine has always been high and I like em like that as it makes for faster gear changes So long as its not slipping, I cant see it being a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 If the clutch is wearing then you are the best bet to know if the biting point has changed? It can be high, no bad thing for quick gear changes . Not sure about the adjustability of it though... +1 - mine has always been high and I like em like that as it makes for faster gear changes So long as its not slipping, I cant see it being a problem. Can someone explain to me in laymans terms what happens when a clutch slips? How can you tell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomoto Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 If the clutch is wearing then you are the best bet to know if the biting point has changed? It can be high, no bad thing for quick gear changes . Not sure about the adjustability of it though... +1 - mine has always been high and I like em like that as it makes for faster gear changes So long as its not slipping, I cant see it being a problem. Can someone explain to me in laymans terms what happens when a clutch slips? How can you tell? the engine revs like a bastard ,and you go nowhere (in layman terms ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 If the clutch is wearing then you are the best bet to know if the biting point has changed? It can be high, no bad thing for quick gear changes . Not sure about the adjustability of it though... +1 - mine has always been high and I like em like that as it makes for faster gear changes So long as its not slipping, I cant see it being a problem. Can someone explain to me in laymans terms what happens when a clutch slips? How can you tell? steep hill, revs rise but car doesnt increase in speed, handbrake on bring the clutch up and it should stall usually basic signs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 If the clutch is wearing then you are the best bet to know if the biting point has changed? It can be high, no bad thing for quick gear changes . Not sure about the adjustability of it though... +1 - mine has always been high and I like em like that as it makes for faster gear changes So long as its not slipping, I cant see it being a problem. Can someone explain to me in laymans terms what happens when a clutch slips? How can you tell? the engine revs like a bastard ,and you go nowhere (in layman terms ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 If the clutch is wearing then you are the best bet to know if the biting point has changed? It can be high, no bad thing for quick gear changes . Not sure about the adjustability of it though... +1 - mine has always been high and I like em like that as it makes for faster gear changes So long as its not slipping, I cant see it being a problem. Can someone explain to me in laymans terms what happens when a clutch slips? How can you tell? the engine revs like a bastard ,and you go nowhere (in layman terms ) When the car is in gear and your depressing the accelerator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 If the clutch is wearing then you are the best bet to know if the biting point has changed? It can be high, no bad thing for quick gear changes . Not sure about the adjustability of it though... +1 - mine has always been high and I like em like that as it makes for faster gear changes So long as its not slipping, I cant see it being a problem. Can someone explain to me in laymans terms what happens when a clutch slips? How can you tell? the engine revs like a bastard ,and you go nowhere (in layman terms ) When the car is in gear and your depressing the accelerator? Basically yeah. Imagine that the clutch isnt grabbing so you keep revving it but you dont move very far. Kinda like when old ladies ride the clutch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 http://auto.howstuffworks.com/clutch.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Did we have this same conversation before and Liam asked the same questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Did we have this same conversation before and Liam asked the same questions? probably "copy'n'paste" questions - reel em in ! liam you ought to be ashamed tut tut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Did we have this same conversation before and Liam asked the same questions? Yep but for some reason my clutch feels a little funny now................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Did we have this same conversation before and Liam asked the same questions? Yep but for some reason my clutch feels a little funny now................. is it hydraulic or cable ? probably hydraulic i would guess, funny ? it what way ? judder ? slipping ? different biting point ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Couldn't comment on the clutch in the G. I'm sure it feels completely different from the Z to begin with. Probably heavy like the first 350. One thing I can say, the bit position changes over time with wear and you probably don't even notice as you drive it so often. If it feels totally different all of a sudden then maybe something is up. Clutch may not be on its way out at all. Could just be the cabling needs tightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Did we have this same conversation before and Liam asked the same questions? Yep but for some reason my clutch feels a little funny now................. is it hydraulic or cable ? probably hydraulic i would guess, funny ? it what way ? judder ? slipping ? different biting point ? Hydraulic auto clutch on the E-gear but Liam's is a manual. Right Liam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Did we have this same conversation before and Liam asked the same questions? Yep but for some reason my clutch feels a little funny now................. is it hydraulic or cable ? probably hydraulic i would guess, funny ? it what way ? judder ? slipping ? different biting point ? Hydraulic auto clutch on the E-gear but Liam's is a manual. Right Liam? Yep manual. I may just be getting a little paranoid in my old old. 1st to 2nd gear change is tough, especially when the car is cold. Once warmed up its fine as is every other gear change. Also, when I reverse off the drive the revs seems to increase a bit even though I'm not revving it that high. lomoto said that the car will rev high but go nowhere. Once in gear and the biting point is found there is no problem at all. The 'notchyness' of the gear change is non existant after the car warms up. The increased rev's when coming off the drive concerned me but its 100% fine once its ingear. I've not noticed any difference once driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 sounds fine, the notchyness is probably just due to the gear oil being cold and thick, "lomoto said that the car will rev high but go nowhere" is really only true if the clutch is totally given up, usually there will be an increase in revs without an increase in car speed - which is the clutch slipping - in say 5th or 6th you put your foot down and the revs increase but the car doesnt, thats usually a good indication of a worn clutch if you imagine your engine revs spinning a plate and the gearbox needs to connect to that to transfer the drive to the wheels - that connection is the clutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 sounds fine, the notchyness is probably just due to the gear oil being cold and thick, "lomoto said that the car will rev high but go nowhere" is really only true if the clutch is totally given up, usually there will be an increase in revs without an increase in car speed - which is the clutch slipping - in say 5th or 6th you put your foot down and the revs increase but the car doesnt, thats usually a good indication of a worn clutch if you imagine your engine revs spinning a plate and the gearbox needs to connect to that to transfer the drive to the wheels - that connection is the clutch Right ok, thats really helpful actually. I have no pobs once in gear at any speeds, just the initial start up thing worried me. The curent clutch has done about 8k which is not a lot in zed terms but is not obserd in lambo terms. I have the new clutch which others have done 35k on so hopefully I just being paranoid android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Sounds fine to me. I damaged the clutch on my Celica a few years ago. My own fault. Accelerated in 3rd when virtually at a stand still. It then started slipping when I was accelerating harder than normal e.g. overtaking. I'd be driving fine, then push the accelerator in a bit more and the car would, if you can imagine it, slip out of gear and just rev until I release the accelerator. It of course didn't drop the gear but slipped. A little search found that the manual in the G is cable controled. Interesting the manual gearstick in the Murciélago goes directly into the gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Sounds fine to me. I damaged the clutch on my Celica a few years ago. My own fault. Accelerated in 3rd when virtually at a stand still. It then started slipping when I was accelerating harder than normal e.g. overtaking. I'd be driving fine, then push the accelerator in a bit more and the car would, if you can imagine it, slip out of gear and just rev until I release the accelerator. It of course didn't drop the gear but slipped. A little search found that the manual in the G is cable controled. Interesting the manual gearstick in the Murciélago goes directly into the gearbox. Ok, again, my car doesn't do that yet. Phew, I can blow that £4k something else then it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 cable is easier, the hydraulic can sometimes get air in it or moisture as its hygroscopic and then goes spongy which means bleeding it from the slave cylinder a worn clutch just feels like your riding the pedal really, its just two plates slipping, friction and pressure sometimes they do just collapse, either the fingers on the pressure plate give way or the friction plate disintergrates (usually from too many drag style starts) the moto gp bike clutches are made to do one start as they need to save weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 cable is easier, the hydraulic can sometimes get air in it or moisture as its hygroscopic and then goes spongy which means bleeding it from the slave cylinder a worn clutch just feels like your riding the pedal really, its just two plates slipping, friction and pressure sometimes they do just collapse, either the fingers on the pressure plate give way or the friction plate disintergrates (usually from too many drag style starts) the moto gp bike clutches are made to do one start as they need to save weight Gibberish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 cable is easier, the hydraulic can sometimes get air in it or moisture as its hygroscopic and then goes spongy which means bleeding it from the slave cylinder a worn clutch just feels like your riding the pedal really, its just two plates slipping, friction and pressure sometimes they do just collapse, either the fingers on the pressure plate give way or the friction plate disintergrates (usually from too many drag style starts) the moto gp bike clutches are made to do one start as they need to save weight Gibberish how would you know yours sounds ok, there have been a few reports i've read of zed clutches failing earlier than they should although it is only a few i'm suprised you dont know the basics liam, i bet you think suck, bang, blow is a porn site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 cable is easier, the hydraulic can sometimes get air in it or moisture as its hygroscopic and then goes spongy which means bleeding it from the slave cylinder a worn clutch just feels like your riding the pedal really, its just two plates slipping, friction and pressure sometimes they do just collapse, either the fingers on the pressure plate give way or the friction plate disintergrates (usually from too many drag style starts) the moto gp bike clutches are made to do one start as they need to save weight Gibberish how would you know yours sounds ok, there have been a few reports i've read of zed clutches failing earlier than they should although it is only a few i'm suprised you dont know the basics liam, i bet you think suck, bang, blow is a porn site Mate, I buy cars drive them, come on here and thats it . I don't know **** all about cars and how to fix them. Thats why i always bought a car in warranty so I can just chuck the keys at the sales guy and say ''its broke, fix it'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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