JetSet

See you all in the morning.

Pete

On 7/11/2017 at 11:49, rabbitstew said:

 

HR Roadsters are pretty rare in themselves. I had mine for 18 months and I think I only ever saw 1 other one on the road in all that time.

 Yeah, thinking about it I've not seen a White or Midnight HR roadster and only one Temper Orange. 

Pete

Yeah, I've only used 483mb and images are still showing up.

Pete

James Hunt from 1977

and from 1975

Pete

I've looked back through the records and can't really find anything similar to this. The Villenueve/Schumacher incident was completely different in that Schumacher had a fluid leak and knew he wouldn't finish the race so deliberately took Villenueve out, pretty much the same with taking Hill out. Schumacher was a very calculating driver, for example parking his car in the middle of the hairpin during the last couple of minutes in qualy at Monaco. Vettel simply had a "red mist" moment and I'm sure he regrets it now, especially after he viewed the footage. You know, when Vettel arrived on the scene he was such a quiet and polite guy but it seems that he's just got too big for his boots and he needs a lesson in anger management. Road rage in an F1 car, or any sort of Motorsport needs to be stamped out , especially in open wheel racing where the consequences of a car getting launched just don't bear thinking about.

Pete

Welcome along

Hello and welcome James - Must admit I've not seen a red convertible......it's superb!!!

I've seen a few Chilli Red convertibles, but never a Rosso Red HR convertible, must be pretty rare.

Pete

After reading through a few of the rules, I've changed my mind and now think that a retrospective DQ will be the most likely outcome. Here is a pretty comprehensive list of the penalties that could be applied.

Vettel's fate is now in the hands of the FIA. There are many penalties that they could levy against him. He could be retroactively disqualified from the race. They could give him an additional time penalty for Azerbaijan, dropping him down the order and out of the points. He may face a significant grid spot penalty for Austria. He may even get a one-race ban, preventing him from competing in Austria. Or, they could do nothing at all.

Since the FIA has gone through the trouble of further investigating the incident, it's very likely that an additional penalty of some sort will happen.

My experience is that once the fuel warning light comes on (while the car is running of course) it stays on until the ignition is switched off and on again. We've had 2 Zeds, a prefacelift, which I've had for 10 1/2 years and an HR, which we had for 7 years and both have been the same. The warning light comes on with about 40 estimated miles left, my wife's Zed used to come on with around 35.

Once the ---DTE comes on then a lot depends on the type of trip you go on. For example, if I go to Asda and park up with a --- then when I turn on it may show 7 miles left but if I come home from Asda it may drop to --- but can read 20 when I turn the ignition back on. Oh yes, Asda is a sea level, I'm at 350 feet so I have to go up a long 8% gradient to get home. I also should add that my fuel gauge is very steady, no erratic behaviour even when fuel is low. I know that there have been a few reported problems on here with the fuel gauge causing incorrect and erratic readings.

Pete

The plot thickens http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/40431244

Apparently, the stewards only had one other more severe punishment available...disqualification. Anyway, I'd expect some sort of ban from 1 to 3 races.

Also, some interesting news of 2 new potential Chinese teams.

http://www.planetf1.com/news/second-chinese-team-registers-f1-interest-report/

Pete

My 2p - I formulated the opinion this weekend that Vettel is a tosser not worthy of my respect any more. If he can't hold his emotions together any better than my wife with PMS, he's got no business in a Formula 1 car, cos he'll kill someone one day. Hamilton's a spoilt brat with his own narcissism issues but he's right, Vettel crossed the line and I also think he should have been disqualified. Deliberate malicious contact in 200mph open wheel cars should result in an instant SEASON ban, this is not something to pussy foot around with.

 

I used to think Vettel was a hothead in the good way, now I realise he's a bad tempered child. Extremely disappointing.

Cars deliberately taking other cars off has happened before, Prost/Senna, Schumacher/Hill and Schumacher/Villeneuve spring to mind. In The Spanish GP of 1997, Schumacher drove into the side of Villeneuve and was consequently disqualified from the 1997 season although he was allowed to keep his wins/poles and fastest laps.

Anyone remember this ?

Pete

Meanwhile, it appears £3.5 bil spent on HMSQE wasn’t enough to get a more modern OS

 

https://www.theguard...le-cyber-attack

 

Wonder if Trident is still on Windows 95...

Googled it and Trident runs on Windows XP, same as The NHS .

Pete

I'll try and get some better photos up just as soon as I figure out what's going on with my camera but these'll do for now.

Biggles

Sophie

The kitten with no name

Pete

 

Hissy fit mode engaged

So once in 306 GP's then

Pete

When the Zed is low on fuel a lot depends on the gradient, that maybe due to the large petrol tank or the shape of it? I remember when I first got my Zed I noticed that I was a bit low on fuel, 20 miles remaining. Within a mile and going up a hill it had dropped to --- so, panicking, I went to a get some fuel. This happened a few times and on one occasion I had to pop home before I got fuel. On restarting the car the reading had gone back up to 20.

2 Things, the low fuel light should not flash and once you get --- DTE then it'll remain on that until you switch the engine off and back on again. FYI, I once drove about 30 miles after the reading reached --- (on a flat road), there is obviously a considerable amount of fuel in reserve.

Pete

All of them, I think. But that's what it takes to get to the top, they're all as bad as each other on their day.

 

I like Seb as a person, and rate him massively as a driver. But this wasn't on at all.

I don't recall JB ever throwing a hissy fit and certainly back in the day you wouldn't see this sort of thing from Jim Clark, Graham Hill, John Surtees, etc. That all changed when James Hunt came along .

Pete

Fantastic race today,best iv'e seen for a long time.

Indeed, we should or at least could have had a Force India 1-2 or a Red Bull 1-2 or a Williams win for that matter. I had a feeling it would be "interesting" after watching the carnage in the F2 support race (Track Blocked, Red Flagged, cars here there and everywhere)

Pete

Sadly, one of our 13 year old cats passed away a few weeks ago. She was fine one day, off her food the next day and the day after that had to be put to sleep. The vet suspected kidney failure and said that at her age there was little that could be done. Also, the feral cat that had been living in our garden for several months was hit by a vehicle on one of the lanes around here at at around the same time. I found him lying in the road with serious injuries and he died a few minutes later. Really upset me that the first time I ever touched him was to pick him up off the road and bury him.

On the bright side, we have a couple of new kittens, "Biggles" and "Sophie". We also have a stunning kitten that someone put a deposit down on but never came to pick up....looks like he may be staying now. Photos soon.

Pete

I think we'll look back in twenty years and realise that Brexit was the best thing to happen to the UK.

I doubt I'll be around in 20 years but I think the entire opposite, I can't back my gut feeling up with facts but neither can anyone else 'cos no one can predict what'll happen in 5 years time let alone 20 but I'm fairly confident that no matter which governments run the country in the next 20 years they'll screw up any potential benefits somehow.

Pete

 

Was talking to a guy about this over the weekend and he said it reminded him of a guy from Moscow who was complaining about our Winters. He said "but you get down to -20 or more over there" to which the Russian replied "being cold in a dry -40 is positively pleasant compared to being cold AND wet for 3 entire months"

I once watched a program about a small town in Russia that had no roads in or out and only existed to service the Trans Siberian Railway, In the winter it was so cold that the school had sleeping facilities for the kids, which were enabled at -45, the temperature at which your tear ducts freeze up and it wasn't that unusual for people to freeze to death in a standing up position. Moscow of course doesn't get down to -40 very often but their winters can be 6 months long, kinda like parts of Canada. Also, according to Wikipedia, the average humidity in Moscow in winter is very similar to London, around 85% but yes, -20 on a bright sunny calm day would feel a lot more pleasant than 3 degrees in a howling gale when its raining cats and dogs . I used to work with a guy from NZ and he said the thing he didn't like about the British weather was the number of windy days, I guess we are just so used to it that we don't notice.

Pete

I thought year low temperature was about 9C, oh, okay, comparable winters then, maybe ours is just a touch colder, hardly something to shout about loool.

Greece sometimes gets plunges of really cold air pushing in from Central Europe, Southern Arizona is protected from cold plunges by The Rocky Mountains. Northern Arizona is on a high plateau from 6,000 to 9,000 feet and has a totally different climate to the Southern deserts.

Pete

Back in 1996 I visited a friend who had retired to Boulder City which is 15 miles or so from Vegas. When I asked them how they coped with the heat they told me that they'd never adapted to it (they were from Galveston, Texas originally) and in the summer months their whole life had to be planned out to avoid the heat. For me, it wasn't so much the heat it was the racket that the air conditioning made in the motels I stayed in that kept me awake at night. I've never stayed in a private house in The States so I don't know how noisy the A/C units are compared to the massive units that many motels have but I reckon that being an A/C engineer would get you a good living over there . I've been in Death Valley when its pushing 120 and quite frankly it was a major effort to walk from the car to the visitor centre and I was pretty fit back then.

Pete

@Stu sexy beast

 

Just speaking to a colleague who lives south of LA and it's hot there at the minute but he was saying he's been in Las Vegas 115F and it's unbearable, they even use pool chillers!

I was in Vegas on Independence day 2007 and it was 115 degrees that day, just 2 degrees short of the all time Vegas record. I'm O.K with big heat but this really was my limit, I must have drunk about 8 bottles of water walking up and down the strip. The thing is though that it'll be above 100 degrees for 2 or 3 months, just unbearable. What amazed me though was that there were vendors polishing shoes out on the street and that the hotel we stayed at (The Stratosfear) had parking attendants dressed in full uniform outside the lobby

Pete

Wow, that's nuts. Occasionally it reaches 45 here, a couple of times in my 15 years, most summers we'll get a day or 2 at 40. The funny thing is, unlike Arizona it frequently hits zero degrees in winter! It once snowed three feet outside my house in the suburbs of Athens

Record low in Phoenix is -9 and average night temperatures in January are only 2.3 degrees, but they can go for several years without a frost. However snow is very rare, only 8 measurable falls in 150 years. Other parts of Arizona get heavy snow, like The Grand Canyon where the North Rim Road is closed until mid May

Pete

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40339730

How can you live in that?

Pete

Does anyone think low mile, low owner, fsh cars will start to appreciate in the near future?

 

Its started to happen with e46 m3's. Completely different car I know, but still an affordable performance car. The price difference between clean original cars and high mileage modded cars is considerable.

 

Maybe the Z isn't popular enough or desirable enough to the masses?

They will go up in value at some stage but we're looking at 20-30 years I would think. As to the near future, one owner, low mileage cars in really good condition will probably settle out at 8k-12k depending on age, possibly even higher than that for GT4's and Pearl White HR's and I can see both of those fetching 20k in 5 years time.

Pete

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