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Quite frankly once the ECU map is optimized for the pop charger I cannot see the difference being very substantial at all.

 

 

Certainly a noticeable difference on mine from my experience

 

Yes but don't you miss that awesome noise?

 

 

No because i have the PC on as i have said above

Ahh sorry, I didn't see that.

Quite frankly once the ECU map is optimized for the pop charger I cannot see the difference being very substantial at all.

 

 

Certainly a noticeable difference on mine from my experience

Yes but don't you miss that awesome noise?

Cheapest option for me would be to decat and fit the XYZ race cat, my only concern is noise.... ..I dont want it to be silly.

great throughout. I also have ATE superblue fluid with standard discs.

 

I have not used DS2500 personally. A friend fitted DS3000 to his car for the same Eurotrip as me me and has suffered bad brake judder. They are also very dusty.

 

I am not slagging off any pads here, just offering my/ my friends experiences.

Just for your information DS3000's are not meant for the road, they are meant for high operating temperatures and have a fairly high wear rate hence the serious amount of dust.

Are the GTR wheels a straight fit? Do you have the stock size GTR tyres fitted then?

Cheers, Ant.

From my experience of oem to quiet y back Exhaust , adding y pipe and now some berk cats I'd say unless your the really loud exhaust type I'd go with one if the quieter exhausts as others gave mentioned to start with . If it's not enough add HFCs they make quite a big change. My fujitsubo was quiet then lil growly and now quite racey so all the bits add up.

I'm tempted by HFC's. Anyone know if any of the traders do an 'amazing' price on them?

Cheers, Ant.

Quite frankly once the ECU map is optimized for the pop charger I cannot see the difference being very substantial at all.

I have the XYZ motordyne mid pipe and am starting to think even with the hood down its soooo quiet, wouldnt mind a little louder. Only thing is the XYZ has a 3" bore OD. Anyone got any ideas? What bore diam is the Scorpion - I thought it was 2.5".

It may loose a little power, but its about the best sound in the world so f**k it. If I wanted a boring engine note I would have bought a 1.8 Audi TT

funny that, it has about 70bhp more than a Z and weighs a similar amount.

Prepare for a big bill if you want forced induction, with the weak pound in excess of £5000 I would think.

From what is easily available I would say Ferodo every time, 2500s are about the best fast road pads going but will wilt under heavy use on a track day. EBC is cheap crap imho, they can take quite serious temperature but I have never got a decent pedal feel from them. Pagid ceramic or carbon pads are about the best pads on the market but they are bloody expensive if you can even get them.

DC2 type R was one of the best cars I have ever owned. I can't believe how sideways I used to get it.

Type R's are great imo, I love the engines. Trouble is they are USELESS as a family car as they are 2 doors. You really really need back doors for a family car I'm afraid or it will do your nut.

 

 

If you read the thread I've already said we had an M3 and the current A3, all had two doors and are absolutely fine

Wait until you get a bit older then! Civic 2.2 diesel is a really nice drive if you don't fancy the type R.

Type R's are great imo, I love the engines. Trouble is they are USELESS as a family car as they are 2 doors. You really really need back doors for a family car I'm afraid or it will do your nut.

I did.

Ant.

problem with the zed is, if you put aftermarket wheels on and dont put correct offsets of use spacers its going to look very pooor indeed so i dont see how you have alot of choice

You are right and we are talking about tiny differences that are probably barely discernible. I'm gonna give the spacers a go for a few weeks and see how I get on.

hmm i dont know, the damper acts through the arm, the longer the arm the more you change the forces acting on the damper.

Exactly! But unsprung weight is also one of the ultimate enemies of motor cars everywhere.

Steering feel/handling will be more affected by the change in unsprung weight of the wheel/spacer combination rather than the increased track width since this is what affects the damper characteristics more than anything

Good point this will also affect it - didn't think of that. I am not sure whether it will make more or less difference than the offset wheels but it certainly will make some difference.

Yeah its really good isn't it. My CD player might as well be taped up for all I use it now (excuse the pun).

Its a pretty common thing on a lot of cars. Incidentally; have you checked the shoes to ensure they are not a little over adjusted? If it is EBC pads I didn't personally ever really find them of as high quality as say Ferodo or Pagid sports pads and I always felt they gave a wretched pedal feel on any car I fitted them to. If you want the best get pagid ceramics, however be prepared to shell out £300 on a set of front pads Push the brake pedal on some RS14's and prepare to get you head smashed through the windscreen - they are awesome.

I fitted mine today, the MWtech ones 20/25. The fit is perfect but I am not 100% convinced on the effect it has had on the steering. Now it might just be me and bear in mind I haven't had the car that long so I am not completely used to it but I have a horrible feeling I have lost a little sharpness in the steering, noticing a little more vibration through the wheel over bumps and slightly worse bump damping in general. Do you think its all in my mind? could it be I was just looking for fault and just noticed something I didn't really take in before as the car is so new to me/novelty factor? Because you are moving the wheels further from the struts and steering axis I realise that in theory there is a possibility of changing steering and damping characteristics but is it in my mind?

 

In theory this should be the net effect and indeed happen when you fit wheel spacers to the front wheels.

The zed is designed, as far as I can tell, with a virtual kingpin axis and zero kingpin offset, i.e. the wheel pivots about a virtual centre struck straight through the wheel thanks to the upper ball joint location. this is condusive to the best steering 'feel'. This gives the best type of handling and no tyre scrub hence why the steering feels 'sharper'. Its likely to be there on all cars fitted with wheel spacers but people simply haven't noticed the difference, th eoverall effect may only be negligible.

 

The other issue with fitting wheel spacers is the increased stress on the wheel bearings, both front and rear. Now it depends on the load capacity of the bearings in use, which will be well in excess of what the car will experience but the net effect of wheel spacers will be reduced wheel bearing life due to additional fatigue per revolution. It would be fairly simple to work out the increase in stress / load on the wheel bearings by lengthening the fulcrum (lever arm) for each mm you extend.

Absolutely, this is what I thought and something many do not consider when carrying out wheel and suspension mods. I think the damping will also be somewhat effected as, as soon as you move the wheel further from the the hub you will be transferring the load point further from the bottom of the strut and effectively putting more load upon the bearing and hub assembly and reducing the load on the strut which will effectively change the damping characteristics. My feeling is that due to the slight reduction in body rigidity on the roadster it may have a greater effect, culminating sadly in some increased scuttle shake as the shock absorbers are no longer absorbing as much of the load. I realise we are talking theoretically however I did feel like some 'dulling' had taken place in ride and steering quality post spacer so I may decide to remove them. The increased width of the car (a pretty massive 50mm at the rear) should increase stability, however I never felt the z was unstable before I started. So the question is, do I go for looks or driving purity? For me purity always wins. Another option of course is a compromise, no spacers up front and less severe spacers at the rear say 10-20mm however that may just look silly.

this shouldnt be the case anthony ...i have been using them hard on my own rx7 for a number of months now and feel no difference or vibrations through the steering. likewise with 2 local drifters putting them through their paces front and back

 

i made sure they were properly proper tight on ( actually had to keep going over the tightning pattern 3 or 4 times on each nut ) to make sure it was totally unmovable

 

i didnt use it, but perhaps some loctite i think its called, may help also?

Dont get me wrong, its nothing to do with qualiity. The spacers are of exceptional quality. I torqued the nuts to 115nm so they are dead tight Its more the effect of moving the wheels further from the steering axis/struts that I suspected may make a difference, which would obviously be the same for all spacers.

OK good, its just me then.

IMO two tone looks awful and its on its way out fashion wise. All one colour is the way for me, white car, white detailing, white wheels - I love that look. The whaleside kit looks totally hideous; it makes the 350Z look like its got a snout.

I fitted mine today, the MWtech ones 20/25. The fit is perfect but I am not 100% convinced on the effect it has had on the steering. Now it might just be me and bear in mind I haven't had the car that long so I am not completely used to it but I have a horrible feeling I have lost a little sharpness in the steering, noticing a little more vibration through the wheel over bumps and slightly worse bump damping in general. Do you think its all in my mind? could it be I was just looking for fault and just noticed something I didn't really take in before as the car is so new to me/novelty factor? Because you are moving the wheels further from the struts and steering axis I realise that in theory there is a possibility of changing steering and damping characteristics but is it in my mind?

Ant.