Spero Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Hey everyone I recently installed an Vortech Supercharger and everything went well until i could not figure out why my car would not start, after loads of troubleshooting I finally found out that the second split box (piggy back for the ecu) was for an G35 instead of a 350z and after calling Vortech they said it would not work and i would have to pay 1000 for an 350z SS. Does anyone know where i can get an used 350z vortech ss? or would tuning the stock ecu be cheaper then paying the 1000 for the 350z ss? Thanks for any and all help in advance!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Did u get that kit off eBay just recently by any chance? Just looking into SC myself, not the biggest expert, but I think u can just remap oem ecu... And depending on where you live, I would highly reccomend Abbey Motorsport ( as far as I remember, just off J6 of m25) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spero Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 I actually had a friend recommend them to me and called them about an hour ago and they said they don't like tuning this setup and everything they wanted to install on my engine would cost 2.5k before the tune. I then called Vortech support and asked if this setup could be ran on an stock engine and they said " Yes we have been running this setup on stock engines since 2003 with no problems at all". So my choices right now are either find an old/used Vortech SS box for the 350z or im SOL. Also if you remap the oem ecu do you need a handheld tuner setup before you go get it tuned? Someone was saying you had to buy and Uprev Osiris for about 700 before you can get it tuned because the oem ecu isn't applicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 the thing is with the S/S box is it detects when boost is applied and fires up the inline secondary fuel pump to provide the fuel for the forced air. it also alters the input readings to the ecu so the ecu thinks its running stock. I don't think you need the Osiris cable, just need an uprev license from abbey. I think the Osiris cable is so you can upload youre own maps and for data logging but not 100% on this. it would be better to ditch the inline fuel pump and go for an uprated in tank fuel pump with a fuel return system and possibly bigger injectors and just get the OEM ecu mapped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spero Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 So you can tune the OEM ECU? I would like to go for an uprated fuel pump and bigger injectors but im at my absolute cap from buying this S/C and can't really afford much more, also one of the big selling points for me was that it can run on stock engines without upgrading internals, injectors, pumps, etc. and it can do it safely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spero Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 Thanks for input as well!! As you can see im an ignorant Z newbie!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 the way i see it -yea, it can run on standard engine...but 1. if you remap now, and then decide to add extra bits - as far as i know you would have to get another remap at full cost 2. running on standard fuel pump/injectors - as far as i understand, would make them run at their highest rate...which dont think will last long? Thats why reccoemded to upgrade them to they not used at 100% of their copability... ^^ but as said, thats how i understand t.... only started looking into SC myself, so only managed to read a little bit so far about it! I guess Abbey's quote was for bigger injectors/upgraded fuel pump/ fuel return system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 i can see the temptation of buying a "cheap" second hand charger kit and thinking it wont cost much more than buying it to have a charged zed. im going through the process right now and my chargers due mid next week. I tried to price everything up before ordering and it seemed not too bad but i missed things out and didnt account for some things. im at around 6 grand the now and thats fitting it all myself. im still looking at the best part of another 1.5k til its all up and running . im just getting the OEM ECU mapped but it can only be done by an uprev tune as far as im aware. the stock DE engine can take upto around 450whp with supporting mods but i wouldnt go that high with the vortech fuelling and stock injectors. where are you located? Abbey motorsport know the 350z inside out and have built many forced induction zeds so in my opinion their the people to talk to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 also if abbey quoted you 2.5 k for the upgrades i still think youre doing really well to have a reliable supercharged zed for under 5k. its a steal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilscorp Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 You might be able to rig the inline pump so it stays on constantly then get an uprev remap to reduce the amount of injector spray when not in boost, but its not going to be as safe compaired with most peoples setups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spero Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 Your right it is a steal but i think im just going to sell the S/C kit, anybody interested in a V-3Sci Vortech supercharger still in the box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I think vlads looking for one mate. Drop him a pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 How much? Dibs... Depending on price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Pm me if you want mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasso Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 How much? Dibs... Depending on price Have you not heard, dibs doesn't apply anymore. You have to stand on your bonnet with your boxers down and shout "I want it". That's the only way in which to secure purchases now. D) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) Ahahaha ok, give me 2 mins...ill take a pic of me doing it and will share it with you lot lol Edited May 3, 2013 by Vlad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 unfortunately, for some unknown reason, when i got on to my bonnet, pulled my pants down and asked walking by people to take a pic - they ran away... ?? but yea... I WANT IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 unfortunately, for some unknown reason, when i got on to my bonnet, pulled my pants down and asked walking by people to take a pic - they ran away... ?? but yea... I WANT IT! Il be down in 2 minutes with my camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 oh...its getting a bit dark now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Its always excuses with you vlad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 excuses? will you hurry up please... i'm getting cold! Might freeze something off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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