W8BGS

Quality pics Andy. 

3 hours ago, Adrian@TORQEN said:

Call the warehouse on 020 33 888 444 or WhatsApp on 075 9913 9999 please. I'm not in most of the days, so don't know the stock anymore  

No worries, I ordered from Torqen on Monday and they have been dispatched today 😁 

On 22/05/2021 at 21:55, W8BGS said:

Hi @Adrian@TORQEN do you know if you have these in stock? Thanks. 

Ordered from Torqen, not in stock in UK, but are in stock with US supplier. 

Thanks, I won't be doing it, I will take it to my mechanic and he can then do the rear alignment afterwards. 

Good to know these sort of kits work. 👍🏻

34 minutes ago, W8BGS said:

Agree. 

 

Do you think the Moog or Eibach would do the trick. 

 

https://www.torqen.uk/nissan/370z/suspension-steering/arms-links/9778-370z-eibach-pro-alignment-rear-camber-bolts-572265k.html

 

I assume Eibach is the way to go as long as they are fine with the rest of the set up being OEM. 

Hi @Adrian@TORQEN do you know if you have these in stock? Thanks. 

1 minute ago, Ekona said:

You’ll need to get that sorted before going to CG, else it’s a waste of time if they can’t adjust everything fully. 

Agree. 

Do you think the Moog or Eibach would do the trick. 

https://www.torqen.uk/nissan/370z/suspension-steering/arms-links/9778-370z-eibach-pro-alignment-rear-camber-bolts-572265k.html

I assume Eibach is the way to go as long as they are fine with the rest of the set up being OEM. 

19 minutes ago, Olly350z said:

The rear is adjustable, I'd imagine your toe bolts are seized hence why you still have toe on one side. Maybe time for a freshen up on the suspension 

Ah OK, yeah I think they did say the rear was seized. Freshen up the suspension probably a good idea, but after just spending £740 on tyres I can't afford anything major. 

I just spotted these. Do you think they will do the trick? 

https://www.torqen.uk/nissan/370z/suspension-steering/arms-links/12799-370z-moog-rear-adjustable-alignment-cambertoe-kit-k100152.html

Anything more will have to wait otherwise until it goes to Centre Gravity in August, but if I can fix cheaply before then, then it's wise to get it sorted ASAP. 

I had the MPS4 fitted today and Christchurch Tyres did a front wheel alignment. The car definitely feels better. The tyres feel a lot firmer, which is good. The alignment is better now too. They said some of the front suspension parts are looking a bit crusty and the rear was seized, but I didn't think the rear was adjustable on the Zed? Either way I am looking forward to the drive to Seywell Circuit next Sunday now and also my trip to Centre Gravity in Aug. 

12 hours ago, Ekona said:

It sounds like to me that ST are offering a “simple” geo, whereas I know from experience that CG go into a lot more detail when checking the car over. Of course you’re going to pay more for that service, so really it’s up to you. 
 

FWIW a day at CG is a hell of a learning experience too, the guys are more than happy to involve you in every step along with letting you wander around the workshop while they’re doing it (should you so desire). In my two days there I learnt more about general suspension/alignment workings than years of reading and prior experience had taught me. 

Thanks, I am going to go with CG. 

It sounds like you learnt a lot, unfortunately for me they are working with Covid restrictions, hopefully I will be fine come Aug, but at the moment they have a load of restrictions, all test drives are alone etc. Hopefully I will get to watch them work their magic. 

13 minutes ago, Andy_Muxlow said:

That cool!

Thanks mate, I wouldn't have edited the pic like that, but it is the style of the photographer that took the shot. The pic itself I like 🙂

This was the reply back from ST

The 370Z should feel pretty sharp, they have relatively quick, positive feeling steering typically and a nice double wishbone front suspension design which works well.

Without actually seeing or driving your car it's really hard to make any promises BUT having the car aligned properly makes a big difference, even if it's within factory specifications that can be quite a broad range and create 2 very different driving cars, even though technically both could be "within spec". Short answer is yes absolutely we can make it drive better, proper answer needs a few questions answering...

What tyres are you running on the car?

Are the wheels standard or aftermarket? Same question for tyre size.

When you had the alignment done was it by a proper workshop that was aiming to improve it, or was it just a typical tyre shop "get it in the green box" type job?

Have the tyres worn at all unevenly over the miles?

Has the car always been the same or do you think it's got any worse?

So, a proper alignment with your weight in the car on the flat patch would be £200+ vat, that'll get whatever time is required to make it perfect. If there's anything actually wrong with the car then we'll need to discuss that when it comes to it, but if it's not had any issues with MOT and it's a standard Japanese car with 72k miles then odds are it's probably perfect underneath. I'm not going to suggest modifications since it sounds like you just want your car to feel nice, which it should and could!

Tyres make a huge difference, let me know what actual tyres you have on the car and the questions above and we'll go from there.

Both places sound like they can sort my issue and both seem places I would be happy to take my car too. 

Yeah CG have sent me another email and it all sounds good. 

We can certainly have a chat as to what the best next step is - the issues you're having sound geometry related - adding ride height and corner weights along with stiffer springs isn't necessarily going to help the problem but only exacerbate it. At least with a proper geometry first you can be sure of what the car can do and how it should feel before emptying your wallet into upgrades that are perhaps not necessary. 

They have also said Eibach are local, so on the day if rear adjustment is needed they will have rear arms and camber bolts available. 

I heard back from String Theory and they sound really good. £200 + vat and they said no time limit, it takes as long as required to get it right. I like that. I just don't think they are as forensic with checking the existing components as Centre Gravity. A bit torn who to visit now. 

2 hours ago, nissanman312 said:

Thats the half day which is all you need i suspect 

 

They are good lads they will see you right 

 

Will you share your set up here please so others can see what they do on the stock suspension 

Sure I will do, although I am currently considering coilovers, so it may not be stock in Aug. As much as I don't really want the car lowered, I am also pretty fed up of the arch gap. If the height is adjustable I can leave it close to OEM height, just a tad lower and have the adjustability of the coilovers. 

1 hour ago, GranTurismoEra said:

What are they going to for you specifically?

 

 

This was the reply. 

Typically vagueness at speed is down to front toes which is easily sorted. 

All cars go through the same process of evaluation drive, inspection of all suspension components to ensure they are healthy and not contributing to any handling issues and then a geometry to suit your requirement and mode of use. Cost for the session is £355.00 inc. VAT and takes around 4 hours to complete.  

Exactly as above. Remember I am in the first instance comparing my stock suspension set up with another 370z (with more miles) stock suspension set up. I don't need to spend thousands on adjustable everything as it would be lost on me as the car is a weekend toy that is never tracked or driven overly hard. 

I have heard back from CG and its booked in with them. They are booking 1st week of Aug for anyone interested. 

They have quoted £355 Inc Vat and stated it will take around 4 hours. 

5 hours ago, Shunter8 said:

I’d second a recommendation for String Theory. Used them back in November and had a full corner weight and alignment done on my 350Z at the time and cost me £400, definitely money well spent and that was just with HSD Dualtechs and standard arms 

Nice, to be fair they are closer too. 

I'll drop them an email. 

3 hours ago, davey_83 said:

I'm going to have to be that guy - unless you have means of adjusting the front and rear camber beyond the standard camber bolts *rear, paying hundreds and hundreds of pounds for an alignment is a waste.

 

These aren't like BM's that you have to weigh down to do an alignment, road test come back check again. If what can be adjusted on a standard Z has been and is all green on a hunter, what else can be adjusted?

 

From before you said the steering feel issue was resolved...... Have you checked and adjusted the tyre pressures correctly coming out the winter? 

I get what you are saying and it is one of my concerns. I know the rear as standard isn't adjustable and was wondering exactly what can be done on a standard car. I think the issue I have with it feeling very different to another standard Zed means I know it can handle differently and maybe I have a part, which on further inspection is damaged and by replacing it will feel as I want it to. I don't drive the car too hard and will never track it. 

I did get it to feel a tad better than it was, but still not comparible with the other one I drove. 

I have sent CG and email and will see what they suggest. I also just checked out the String Theory site and looks like alignment is the only thing that can be done with non height adjustable suspension. I will drop them a message and see what they say too. 

I told them the issue and that is the settings they used. I will try and find someone local to me in Bournemouth. Christchurch Tyres were the go to place locally for geo, they regularly had Supercars going there for set ups, but as you say it doesn't mean a thing if my car didn't have any improvement. 

Just googled Centre Gravity and that is exactly the sort of place I need to visit. Will get the tyres changed and book in with them. 3 hr trip each way, so I hope it is worth it. 

11 hours ago, Ekona said:

Who did the alignment? What did you ask them to do?

Was done by Christchurch Tyres with their hunter hawk alignment equipment. 

On 11/05/2021 at 22:45, nissanman312 said:

Yeah its not that there's anything wrong with your bushes its just that they are soft from the factory 

 

The two things I found made a massive difference was the gearbox mount and the subframe collars both those things realy gave the car a more connected feel and you're looking at 300/350 quid better money spent than braces 

 

Just my 2 pence 

Thanks. The biggest issue I have with my Zed is I feel the front end is vague and light. I drove another Zed, it was completely standard before I bought mine, overall the car was in a much worse condition, but it felt stiffer at the front. I bought mine and have changed the tyres, had alignments, had the suspension etc parts checked and all deemed to be in excellent condition. 

15 minutes ago, nissanman312 said:

If you want a to tighten things up I'd be looking at all the soft rubber bushing of the 370z than bolting a load of bracing everywhere 

 

Gearbox mount 

Diff mount 

Subrame bushings 

Poly bushing will all tighten the car up and realy give you a more connected feel once all those things are not wobbling around under your arse 

Thanks, it's something I have thought about before, but my mechanic has had a good look at my bushes and said all are spot on. Also there are so many different bushes I appreciate you have listed 3, but with all the steering/suspension bushes it's a never ending list and I don't have bottomless funds. The US guys seem to suggest changing to coilovers and ignoring braces. There are just so many different opinions. 

41 minutes ago, Ekona said:

Those tyre ratings for wet/dry/noise are pretty much useless, and whilst you could compare a c rated hankook with an a rated Pirelli and find a difference, overall compound and tread style will make a vast difference even between an AS3 and an AS4 (as it should, given rapid tyre development these days).

 

If it’s a tighter feel you’re after, then def do the tyres and geo but I would also give serious consideration to purchasing some chassis bracing instead of the arbs, it made more of a difference on my old Zed than anything else. Gave a lot more feel and pointyness than even I was expecting, and worth every penny. 

Thanks, are there any braces you recommend for the 370z? 

The MPS4 come out at £735 fitted and Michelin are currently doing £100 cashback on 4 tyres, plus using topcashback and will get 7.7% back by buying at protyre.