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Don't remove the spigots, it's got nothing to do with them. I've had fairly slow over steer moments in the Zed before with decent 4-5mm Hankooks due to greasy roads, it happens us all, just take it easy until you get rid of the Nankangs and the RS3's are worn in a bit

mmmm the rear nankangs were fine before fitting the new RS3 tho with no slip unless giving it some with traction off ..might be the new RS3 needing to bed in as you say ...and okay im going to refit the spigots after iv used some wet and dry behind the 3 original rotas that were tight.

 

id prefer not having to pull the wheels onto the hubs via tightening the nuts .

 

never sanded powder coat before so hope wet&dry sandpaper does the job

 

They were fine up until this time when the roads are cold, possibly greasy etc, thats why you lost it. Says more about the conditions that the tyres.

 

Ref the spigots, did you fit them in the alloy or onto the hub before fitting the wheels?

yea i see your point ..the weather has changed rapidly since fitting them.

 

and i pushed the spiggots onto the wheel then placed the wheel on the hubs .

 

the brand new rota was easy ...the spigot just slid on and wheel went on easy flush to the hub with no effort.

 

the original 3 rotas were a different story.....i had to really push the spigots on holding one side on while i pushed the other side of the spigot to get them on the wheels.

 

then they wouldn't sit flush to the hubs so had to do the wheel lugs up a bit at a time (like when using a torque wrench) to pull the wheel flush to the hubs

 

May have missed/forgot this, so none of the wheels had spigots? I guess it's possible that the 3 older wheels have been referred as you say, leading to thicker PC. Have you access to a vernier to accurately measure the diameter of the centre of the wheels?

yes that's correct ...non of the wheels have had spigots fitted which seems odd as previous owner (forum member) didnt come across as the type to take short cuts so maybe he tried fitting them and had similar problems?

 

and yea iv got a vernier somewhere ...will dig it out and check but im quite certain the bore tightness is due to the alloys been re-powdercoated at some point

Sure the repairs were done properly? Everything was re-aligned afterwards? Tyre pressures all ok? Bushes, Bearings, ARBs, Drop links all ok?

 

If you've hit something hard enough to properly destroy an alloy wheel you want to check everything else is ok too. Remember that it's more than just the wheel that was involved in the accident, it was the whole car.

as far as i and other people could see mate ...we checked suspension parts , arms etc ..bushes are seated correctly and nothing bent ....plus im sure the garage would of said if anything was remotely wrong so they could bleed more cash on repairs lol.

 

i will double check once iv got the wheels off again tho

Don't remove the spigots, it's got nothing to do with them. I've had fairly slow over steer moments in the Zed before with decent 4-5mm Hankooks due to greasy roads, it happens us all, just take it easy until you get rid of the Nankangs and the RS3's are worn in a bit

mmmm the rear nankangs were fine before fitting the new RS3 tho with no slip unless giving it some with traction off ..might be the new RS3 needing to bed in as you say ...and okay im going to refit the spigots after iv used some wet and dry behind the 3 original rotas that were tight.

 

id prefer not having to pull the wheels onto the hubs via tightening the nuts .

 

never sanded powder coat before so hope wet&dry sandpaper does the job

 

They were fine up until this time when the roads are cold, possibly greasy etc, thats why you lost it. Says more about the conditions that the tyres.

 

Ref the spigots, did you fit them in the alloy or onto the hub before fitting the wheels?

yea i see your point ..the weather has changed rapidly since fitting them.

 

and i pushed the spiggots onto the wheel then placed the wheel on the hubs .

 

the brand new rota was easy ...the spigot just slid on and wheel went on easy flush to the hub with no effort.

 

the original 3 rotas were a different story.....i had to really push the spigots on holding one side on while i pushed the other side of the spigot to get them on the wheels.

 

then they wouldn't sit flush to the hubs so had to do the wheel lugs up a bit at a time (like when using a torque wrench) to pull the wheel flush to the hubs

Don't remove the spigots, it's got nothing to do with them. I've had fairly slow over steer moments in the Zed before with decent 4-5mm Hankooks due to greasy roads, it happens us all, just take it easy until you get rid of the Nankangs and the RS3's are worn in a bit

mmmm the rear nankangs were fine before fitting the new RS3 tho with no slip unless giving it some with traction off ..might be the new RS3 needing to bed in as you say ...and okay im going to refit the spigots after iv used some wet and dry behind the 3 original rotas that were tight.

 

id prefer not having to pull the wheels onto the hubs via tightening the nuts .

 

never sanded powder coat before so hope wet&dry sandpaper does the job

Ford lol I understand the reason though! Good fix

 

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was the only colour that seemed to complement the orange tan seats etc .actually stole the idea off a forum 350 lol.

next year its getting hydrodipped properly but not yet decided on colour yet ...will probably go gloss black carbon background with a orange weeve intwined if available.

 

iv seen orange/black carbon wrap on ebay and it looks mint but not sure if available in hydrodip

Whilst I accept that a lot of this will be down to brand new tyres on the front (especially the understeer entering a roundabout), get used to the odd balance now you've fitted mixed tyres. This is exactly the kind of thing that I warn people about.

 

It'll be fine 90% of the time, then it'll do something completely random (especially in changeable conditions) that'll scare the crap out of you, and leave you with zero confidence in the car.

do you meen odd balance as in nearly new RS3 and new RS3 on the front?

 

everything was fine with this combo before fitting the replacement RS3 on the new OSF rota gtr .

 

it really was in my mind too slow a speed for it to kick out ....if id of been caning it with traction off i would of expected the out come .

 

im going to take the spigots off Sunday and see how it feels as wasn't keen on the way they fitted to the original 3 rotas ...im assuming they've been re powder coated at some point hence the tight fit on the hubs with the spigots fitted .

I'd have binned the Nankangs long before I'd bin the RS3s!

to be fair i wasnt keen on the nankangs at first ( going off rumors)

but they do seem to grip very well ...i think they are ns2 or something like that

Is it the fronts slipping or the rears?

front went on roundabout and rear kicked out on way back on a slight right bend.

 

both times at 10-15 mph and scared the crap out of me how it lost control at so slow speed

Personally I'd would of replaced both fronts with nankangs then if budget allowed.

darnt spend another penny atm mate ..just forked out 1500 for sevice and mods and then 800 on repairs from hitting that curb .

i strongly suspect id be waking up nutless if I spend anymore before xmas .

Where did you get the spigots, ebay cheap or somewhere reputable?

spigots from trader on here mate .

no, that wouldn't make a car slip. you maybe needed to clean up the hub faces/insides of the wheels a bit before fitting them.

 

 

Just how new are the tyres? are they properly worn in yet? i'd normally give a new tyre 200 miles of dry running before I expected them to be performing properly, but that distance is probably longer in the wet.

the original rainsport 3 on the OSF has plenty of tread .

 

the brand new rainsport 3 on the NSF is a week old but only been out today from its fitting last week.

 

the rears are 6 week old nankangs ...excuse spelling lol

only other thing different than tyres is iv fitted spigot rings .

 

the new rota gtr was fine but the original 3 rotas were very tight going on the hubs with the spigot rings fitted and had to pull the wheels back to the hubs via tightening the lug nuts one by one .

 

could this cause the car to slip?

they're asymmetrical, not directional. so will have an inside and an outside. the two deep continuous grooves should be on the inside and then the diagonal sipes are on the outside. this will give the impression that they go opposite directions to each other, but that's correct!

 

much like this:

cheers brillomaster

I have never used these but most tyres have inside/outside written on them, have you checked?

yea there fitted so the inside / outside markings are correct but it just looks weird as the tread patern runs backwards on the new tyre

hi guys ...

should the new NSF rainsport 3 tyre have the same directional tread as the OSF rainsport 3 ?

 

i rang the supplier last week and mentioned it but he said they were asymmetrical and it didnt matter.

reason i ask is iv just been out driving very steady and nearly lost the car twice .

something is very wrong.

 

edit yes traction control was on

I like your Orange middle unit

 

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ford electric orange ..had to spray it due to a relative thinking he could hydrodip

haha yea forgot it v6 so twin electric turbos lol

 

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last pic rear alloy

 

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Crash?

Hope its repairable and your alright

yea car and me are fine cheers pal .

hit a curb stone at 80 and buckled nsf alloy , riped tyre , punctured braided nsf brake hose , bust slave cylinder hose and nackered slave , slight curbing on nsr alloy .......alot of heart ache for my stupidity but lesson learnt

http://www.350z-uk.com/topic/105649-installation-guide-350z-de-d1-spec-gt-throttle-controller/

 

I would say just go through the setup procedure again, it should recalibrate as if new.

Or is this sorted now?

no its still same mate just havnt had time to sort it yet with getting the car sorted from the crash

LOL

Fit a magnet to your fuel line for another 20bhp while your at it.

Needed a laugh thanks.

haha your welcome ...iv just been scrolling through some of the other marvelous miraculous contraptions for the 350z on ebay .....might get one of them electric turbos while im at it lol

guess this is too good to be true ?

 

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okay cheers GM im just speaking to him atm about some wheel nuts so will .

also what are they for? sorry for noob questions but i really havnt a clue

Because the alloys are designed to be used on lots of different vehicles the centre bore at the reverse of the alloy is always large so that it will fit a variety of vehicle hubs, ....you just need to select the spigot ring to suit your vehicles hub diameter.

 

 

sorting it with mitz now ...cheers for heads up

Speak to rarerims, they got my spigot rings for the Rotas on my car.

cheers coldel iv sent them a email as they not answering phone when i rang

 

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okay cheers GM im just speaking to him atm about some wheel nuts so will .

also what are they for? sorry for noob questions but i really havnt a clue

 

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