chubbster

just googled it - http://www.thegoathe...assic-car-meet/

edit - and this... http://www.hertsclassiccarclub.co.uk/...

and this - https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=the+goat+hertford+heath+classic+car+meet&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=JgR&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvnsfd&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=_BMsUO-WK6qx0AWKj4HoDA&ved=0CEgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1843&bih=840

oh, and this...

HA HA nah its not black, good observation. are you local then cause like I said there are 3 of us in hoddesdon and we meet up now and then just to chat and share mod tips ect,

Yes, I'm in Hertford. Although my current car's a 370, I've also owned 2 x 350's since 2004, so I'm not totally unfamiliar with them. I'd love to meet up some time. How about The Goat, Hertford Heath, on Sunday 1st June - apparently they have a lunchtime car thing on the 1st Sunday of every month, although I've never been to it.

ps - the colour of my car is in my sig (that makes me even more observant than you )

Silver, with black front fangs, grey/silver Nismo wheels and a slightly nutty numberplate.

Yours isn't black is it? I saw one once parked up near to Aldi's. - ooops I just saw your avatar. Clearly it's not black!

same here I hate when you wave and they stare back like your some kinda of fruit cake

Yes - Not nice to be reminded that one is a nutter.

Maybe you'll spot me one day - I use Aldi regularly - can't resist a bargain, that's why I buy Z's.

Let's hope it's him - I'm fed up with spotting people who don't exist

...Teso car park, Sunday 18th May, 3pm.

That's it - I've decided - I'm REBELLING.

I REFUSE to remove my tax disc from my windscreen.

I'm starting a campaign.

This October I am KEEPING my tax disc in my windscreen - arrest me, I don't care - I might even make my own ones.

Do I start a new thread?

I suppose you've removed the weight in the boot lid?

I like tax discs

I shall miss the challenge of trying to tear the perforations perfectly, to make a perfect circle without cheating by using scissors. No lumps, no torn bits and no portions missing. Takes a while, but it is do-able.

Yes - I'm OCD too.

And what I don't understand is why you guys have got a demand for £500. Mine plopped through the letterbox today too - and it's for £485. Is it because I have a 370?

Yes - I too feel that someone may lock this thread, for reasons best known to themselves. I've witnessed that kind of action before on forums.

So, before it's locked, let me just say how sad it is that there seem still to be racists and their defenders* all over the place in our fine country. I live in hope that one day they will see.

*many of whom claim, "I am not a racist"!

Oh, FFS, you're still debating on this, get a life people!

Personally, I'm not debating currently - the polarised positions are already very well established - but I support anyone who wishes to debate. Sadly, as you can see, continued debate has lead to personal abuse and baiting from certain members of the 'Clarkson's not a racist' camp and I'm not stooping to that level. I'm just waiting for Ofcom's ruling. Ofcom don't have the vested interest that is clouding the BBC's judgement on the Burma comments.

I hope you're not suggesting it's not a serious subject for debate, because it certainly is. Clarkson is the most influential character on the world's most popular car show. If he makes racist comments, it's serious - as he himself agrees in his apology.

Surely until there is a resolution, the issue is still live. If you find it boring, why not read or do something else?

The fat lady may not have started singing yet...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jeremy-clarkson-racism-claims-ofcom-launches-investigation-into-top-gear-presenters-slope-comment-9329240.html

...Personalised number plate. No point in flashing - I was in my wife's Smart car

Well, ive just read all of the comments on this thread, and I must say, most of you are very nice, genuine people. However, some of you really are rather rude to call someone sad and pathetic just because they have a picture of themself as their "avatar" or whatever its called. If you take a look around there are plenty of lads that have links to their pages etc on here but im guessing you haven't noticed that. I had never even been on a firum for cars before and hadnt read any posts so I thought you were supposed to have a picture of either yourself or your car. I do apologise if all ive done is not to your taste, and are certainly entitled to having your own opinion. But maybe think twice before making yourself like a royal aresehole by using such hurtful words.

 

 

I will be the bigger person and leave it at that.

 

One last think actually...... this is my 11th car and I do infact love cars, just none as much as I love my zed.

 

 

Thank you.

Well said!

I'm sure you realise that I made this thread for a bit of a laugh. Inevitably, testosterone will rear its head from time to time on a sports car forum - I'm sure you know that already.

It's clear to me (and many others) that your 'car credentials' are at least the equal of many users here.

Finally, I enjoyed your phrase, "making yourself like a royal aresehole" - very succinct

Sportsman's bet?

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Yeah, go on then! Tell you what, let's make it interesting: £5 to a charity of your choice if he gets the boot over this in the next two weeks.

 

The beeb wheels turn slowly. Make it 4 weeks, to let the outcry gain a head of steam and you're on.

 

 

 

Edit - should we both have a veto over the other's charity, just in case you don't want me to tell you to give it to something totally radical and vice versa?

Sounds like a plan

 

*e-handshake*

Only just caught up here.

e-handshake it is then (although currently, if I were a neutral, I'd be backing you, because it seems like the beeb's currently suffering from another nasty outbreak of Savilitis, the main symptom of which is a weak will and lack of a backbone, caused by an overarching concern for profits. I may have given them more credit than they deserve - time will tell).

Edit - I see he's safe now - he has Farrage and Gove in his corner.

I think perhaps your distaste for Clarkson may be clouding your judgement here.

Any person with his public image who sings a racist rhyme out loud when he knows he's on camera, shooting a piece for a national TV show, should be arrested and charged. It's the people who like him whose judgement is clouded, not mine.

I freely admit that I dislike him intensely, but my judgement is crystal clear.

To give different examples - what if the Pope sang this rhyme to camera? What if David Cameron sang it to camera? What if Ed Miliband sang it to camera? Would it be brushed under the carpet? Of course not - They would GO.

This is the kind of attitude that allowed Jimmy Savile to get away with it.

Please allow me to comment on your arguments...

1. Paragraph one, whilst amusing, is irrelevant. Your ex neighbour's dog who barked at everyone, has nothing to do with this issue. Jeremy Clarkson is not a dog - that is an insult to dogs. Yes, it is true that Clarkson makes sickeningly disgusting remarks about many types of people, but calling him a dog does not excuse him. He is a human being who should know better. He cannot be innocent like a dog, because he's not a dog, he's human, sadly.

2. Paragraph two - He's not a 'harmless old racist'. I am seven years older than Jeremy Clarkson. You CANNOT excuse him because of his age. That is just ageist (and I'm not joking here).

3. Paragraph three - "he's not doing anyone any harm". He IS doing us harm (it's the main part of his self-devised job-spec to do us harm - he makes his living out of it). He's doing us harm by encouraging people with bigoted views, by expressing them himself. He is responsible for increasing the divisions between us.

4. Paragraph four - Ignorance of the law is no excuse, even if you are from another country. Would you excuse a man who said, "Well, in my country it's legal to have sex with a girl of 12?", just because he's from another country, or "in my country female genital mutilation is acceptable", or "in my community we torture and kill people we disagree with", just because he's from elsewhere?

You've still got a nice car, by the way.

For what it's worth:

 

1) I'm the youngest of 7 siblings, the eldest three are 'mixed race', British, Indians.

2) My best friend in Junior school was called Khalid and was from Sri Lanka

3) My favourite TV show growing up was a little show on Channel 4 called Desmonds

4) My eldest sister married an Egyptian Muslim and had two 'mixed race' kids who are British, Indian and Egyptians

5) I work with a Muslim guy called Akeem from Nigeria and an Hindu guy called Kamal from India

6) My step daughter is a Lesbian

7) I used the rhyme at school with the N word in it, without realising it's meaning

8) I felt 'odd' the other day when someone I know is NOT a racist, used the phrase "Nigger in the woodpile" on the phone to me

9) I do NOT feel that Clarkson was in any way being racist and because I used that same rhyme at school, could easily have made the same Gaff.

10) I'm white, blonde haired, blue eyed, straight and voting UKIP

 

I am NOT A F%#!ING RACIST, nor a bigot and I am SICK and TIRED of the morons in this country, who insist on making mountains out of molehills and issues out of nothing! The Gay Marriage thing was another one, I couldn't give a flying f%#! if gay people can get married or not, I really don't care. Were I an MP, or had there been a referendum, I'd have abstained from a vote, for the simple reason I care not about the outcome, that's their issue and it's up to them to push it, only they didn't did they? The people who did, are the wet lefty liberal STRAIGHT people! I asked a gay friend of mine who owns a 300zx the other day, if he and his civil partner were going to get married now that they can, you know what he said? "No of course not, marriage is between a man and a woman!". I laughed and corrected him, then realised WTF I was doing! That is HOW f%#!ed up this world is now, me, a straight guy, started telling my gay friend that his opinion of marriage was wrong, because he thought it didn't apply to him!

 

Someone summed it all up earlier in this thread "If the Mirror had never shown the footage, surely no one would have been offended?". He's absolutely ****ing BANG ON! Clarkson isn't the one to blame here, if anyone is offended, blame the Mirror! If you believe TG is scripted, then the script writer is to blame for the original footage and it explains why Clarkson tried to mumble the word, then decided it was just too close to the bone to be aired. If you believe it's spontaneous, Clarkson gaffed because he's an old git, who used the N word in the rhyme at school, then made sure it wasn't aired and realised his mistake. Either way, this is a NON ISSUE and it's @*!# like this, that stirs up the bloody BNP and the EDL and the National Front etc. Pack it the **** in!

...and then I read the message under your sig pic...

Edit - lovely pic of your car, by the way

Just came across this, thought chubster might like it:

 

Eeny meeny miny mo

Jeremy Clarkson’s got to go

It’s quite his thing, being far right wing

Do UKIP need more staff? Er, no!

 

There was an old racist called Jezza

Who courted the public’s displeasure

He went way too far

And was driven by car

For a stay at her majesty’s pleasure.

 

boom boom - not my best ever, but not my worst.

 

Are you taking Ekonas Bet ?. Boom Boom..

 

Try reading my posts.

 

They are to long..is the answer Yes or No..

To be honest, I find it strange that you've appointed yourself to 'be in charge' of a bet between me and someone else. However, if you insist on being redirected to the specific post where I reply to Ekona's suggestion of a fiver bet between me and him, here you go LINK - and by the way, it's a very short post, so you'll be ok.

Just came across this, thought chubster might like it:

 

Eeny meeny miny mo

Jeremy Clarkson’s got to go

It’s quite his thing, being far right wing

Do UKIP need more staff? Er, no!

 

There was an old racist called Jezza

Who courted the public’s displeasure

He went way too far

And was driven by car

For a stay at her majesty’s pleasure.

 

boom boom - not my best ever, but not my worst.

 

Are you taking Ekonas Bet ?. Boom Boom..

Try reading my posts.

Not me, but I've used R-Tec several times - used to live in St Albans when I owned my 350's. Good shop. Got my 370z eibach spacers from you not too long ago. Your price matching is genuine.

Just came across this, thought chubster might like it:

 

Eeny meeny miny mo

Jeremy Clarkson’s got to go

It’s quite his thing, being far right wing

Do UKIP need more staff? Er, no!

There was an old racist called Jezza

Who courted the public’s displeasure

He went way too far

And was driven by car

For a stay at her majesty’s pleasure.

boom boom - not my best ever, but not my worst.

He is a victim of nothing other than his own old age and stupidity.

 

Ageism

 

I was talking to a client on the phone a few weeks ago, he was of the older generation when words like that were commonplace. When describing the last remaining issue to be resolved, he used the phrase "The only nigger in the woodpile".

 

I was quite shocked. He didn't know if I was black or not as we had never met in person. I didn't kick off and start petitioning the golf club for him to be sacked. I out it down to his generation and an innocent slip of concentration.

 

Why isn't Prince Phillip up on reciting racial hatred charges? Because people put it down to a gaff. Its a completely different matter than using the word in a deliberately offensive manner.

Fair comment in a general sense, but even Clarkson himself isn't using that defence, so you can't defend him in that way. Clarkson knows it was wrong and knew it was wrong at the time and still didn't try to stop himself from saying it and now he's wriggling like a worm on a hook.

Edit - thinking about it, he could actually be a giant maggot, couldn't he?

He is a victim of nothing other than his own old age and stupidity.

Ageism

Sportsman's bet?

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Yeah, go on then! Tell you what, let's make it interesting: £5 to a charity of your choice if he gets the boot over this in the next two weeks.

The beeb wheels turn slowly. Make it 4 weeks, to let the outcry gain a head of steam and you're on.

Edit - should we both have a veto over the other's charity, just in case you don't want me to tell you to give it to something totally radical and vice versa?