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Poorboys Blackhole FTW!!!!......it can make the shittiest of cars come back to life - viewtopic.php?f=22&t=47828&hilit=passat+of+doom From those piccies it looks like its got some natty spats on the rear bumper too - they'd cost a few bob I think (pretty sure they aint standard) Heya Ricey, Sorry for the late reply- for some reason this thread was showing as not responded to on the pc so just seen your reply whilst browsing on my phone! The rear bumper is in super nic so i think the ugly marks must be reflections of my face is it the mark to the left of the light on the drivers side? That's the relflection of my white on black shelltoes if so! Headin down to the garage to hopefully tie up the sale tomorrow so wish me luck! S.

Cheers Bronzee - we'll be taking over the place soon aye? Fodder - the heavily modded Zed I saw was a private plate - I'm quite sure that started with a 'W' and had a couple of 'S' so yep, it's probs the same bloke. I'm looking forward to the wave by the way! I think we can also assume that it must be the fella from Saltney Tyre Services if it had STS on the plate - I'm loving this communal detective work S.

Saw a very nice 05 plate chili red roadster going through Waverton this morning (11.30am-ish). Unfortunately for the driver and passenger they were stuck in an almighty que due to the A41 being closed off due to a big smash S.

I like your work JetSet! A part-time private detective! Can any of you old hands tell from the pic if that's an import? The one I saw today defo was. I was kinda hoping Mr Saltney Tyres might have been a forum member doing cheapies for fellow Zed owners but if not I guess I'll stick with tried and tested Buckley Tyres which I'm sure you use JetSet! S.

To be fair I can imagine running a pub is horrendous what with twunts of customers and the triple twunts of the breweries! ...don't think you'd want to see one either! JetSet - yep, it did have one of those rear bumpers on. The fugly spoiler came up far too high which didn't suit the shape of a Zed in my opinion. You say you've seen him in Saltney - I'm led to believe that the owner of Saltney tyres has a Zed so perhaps this was him? S.

Hahaha, I should probs correct you there as I'm a bird but thanks, can't wait to get my mits on it! Wow - living in the Blackdog sounds pretty fun - don't go there too much but I'm told quiz night is good. The shape of the spoiler itself was kinda like that yeah but it was supported by a big central column if that makes sense? S.

There's one that lives opposite the Peacock pub (boughton) I've seen a few times, again an import. Don't want to be slating anyone on this forum but the modded one I saw looked pretty daft with the bigg-ass spoiler. Nice rims though I'm hoping to put the deposit for 'mine' down on Monday so will hopefully get a wave from you soon Ricey I'm in Waverton by the way. S.

Saw a heavily modded silver import at the fountains roundabout in Chester at about 2.45pm today (Sat 2nd July) with MASSIVE whale tail wing. S.

I'm CH3 and have had two quotes thusfar in the £850 region - I'm (nearly) 28 and been driving since 17 but I've always been a named driver so no proper 'no claims' in my name - I'm pretty pleased with those quotes to be fair. I'm only 3 miles from Chester city centre too.

Hi OP I'm hoping to purchase my first Zed next week - been after one for a while - had a test drive yesterday and fell in love instantly I'm moving over from an Almera by the way S.

Sounds like a good plan! My initial budget was £8,500 but I was ideally after a Zed with lower miles and wouldn't want to pay more than £8k for this one. I'm a right bugger for a bargain but not used to haggling with car dealers and don't want to be laughed at and told to f-- off if I go in too low. I'm going to go back on Monday to try and complete the sale. I'm thinking that most garages have their interest from prospective buyers on a Saturday/Sunday and I'm hoping that they wouldn't have any enquiries of the Zed this weekend so when I pop down on Monday they'll be more inclined to listen to my offer. Another good plan! I'm a t-shirt printer by trade and use the same kit that's used for decals - will have to be restrained else the poor little Zed'll end up with 'go fast stripes' all over S.

Cheers for the merge Chris and thanks for the confirm Pete - I suspected that was the case with the lights Any opinions on how much I can haggle 'em down to? S.

I've been a bit greedy and seem to have two similar threads on the go (will ask mod to merge) - here's my report of the test drive

I'm in love! had an awesome time on the test drive - thought I was going to make a right tit out of myself and goof the gears up but seemed to take to it straight away (maybe as my current car is a Nissan?). There were however a couple of noises which shouldn't have been there which the dealer forwarned us of (although we'd obviously have heard them) - one being caused by a wheel bearing and the other from the heat shield which the dealer has promised will be fixed up. There's a mechanical garage on site and the Zed would also come with full MOT and service and 3 months warranty. We suspect that it has had a little bump in the past as the two rear lights look different - on the drivers side there's a slight gap between the casing and the bodywork (dealer says this will be sorted) and also there's red casing on drivers side and not on the other. The paintwork is all fine and no bumps or scratches on the rear. Here's pics of the rear lights: With regard to cosmetic damage in general it's in good nic for the age but of course there are a few little scratches which I guess show on a black car. The worst body damage is on the lower wheel arch on the drivers side. Pic here: I really, really did love this Zed and just need to plan my negotiating now - listed on the garage's website and Autotrader for £8,995 but when my colleague, who knows the dealer, enquired on my behalf they said £8,500 to him (this was before I visited the garage). Any thoughts? Thanks again as ever all - reckon I'll have to get a round in on my first meet S.

cheers guys - will be snap happy when I go back for the test drive tomorrow and, at the risk of being a bit cheeky, might post up a few pics for experts opinions. Thanks again all! S.

Thanks again guys - I'm really grateful to you all and really appreciate all the help and the warm welcomes from this forum. Will most certainly report back tomorrow AM! S.

Not yet - I was offered when I went to view on Saturday but daft as it sounds I knew I'd get a bit too nervous with the dealer in the car so I'm going back with my Dad tomorrow who knows far more about engines than I do so will go for a spin with him. Bless him, he's even going to get his ears syringed in the morning so he can hear properly Any tips or pointers for us? Cheers, S.

Cheers RabbitStew & Cereal - much appreciated Yikes! Hope having a fistful of soverigns isn't a prerequisite for having a Zed Is the interior of the facelift models as prone to these marks? They don't bother me too much - I was just wondering whether the owner was driving round with a big dog on his lap (a canine I mean for you dirty minded sorts!). S.

OP - at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious have you tried adding an experienced driver (ie one of the folks) to see how much it brings your premiums down? To be fair it'll probs still be a shocker but might take a few quid off. S.

Sweet - thanks for that - sounds like an easy enough job - even for the likes of me S.

Cheers all, I got a preliminary quote from Sky (as rec on this forum) and also getting a Zed added to our Admiral multicar - both were £850 (well, Sky was £853) but Sky has a much lower excess and I also gather it's a much better service. Sky told me they will take my years as a named driver into consideration as long as I've retained my old insurance documents. They also said they'd want proof that I'm a member of this forum. All things considered I'm pleased with this for my first car in my name. The above was for a Zed (GT) with no mods (but will defo mention the Nismo kit if I get it). S.

Out of interest what is a full GT and a GT without the extras? We speaking about Rays and Sat Nav? According to Parkers the optional extras for the GT are: Met paint; tan leather interior and 18" RAYS alloys (http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/used-pric ... 0&options=) Cheers, S.

Massive thanks for your input guys - here's a copy and paste (in blue) from another thread of mine (being a bit greedy having two threads on the go - sorry mods!) with some more details on the car... I viewed the car on Saturday and was very taken with it although there were a couple of minor bad points which I'll mention in a sec. I didn't actually test drive it - I was offered to but I must admit to being slightly nervous and am going back to do a test drive with my Dad tomorrow who'll be able to detect any rattles etc better than I can. I was expecting to see quite a high amount of chipping on the bumper as I've read the Zeds seem prone to due to shape and was very suprised to see how good nic the front was in given it's age and high miles. Is there any way I can tell if the Nismo kit was factory fitted as the opitional extra? I've read conflicting reports that on the models which had the FF Nismo kit the seats and gear knob were meant to be Nismo branded but in the car I viewed it was the tan leather. Can anyone clear this up for me? Bad points about the car: * Higher miles than I ideally would have liked (86K) although I personally have a low annual mileage as I work from home. * Car has done 20k miles in the last year. * No services for 06 and 09. * Somewhat tatty interior (what looked like claw marks on the inside drivers door handle?). Unfortunately car hadn't yet been valeted by the garage which would have helped. * Smell of petrol when starting engine - other half doesn't think this is necessarily a bad sign. * Small gap between bodywork and rear light on drivers side (being a bit picky here probs). * Slight kerbing on all four alloys. * Few scratches but to be expected on age vehicle and I know the black shows 'em up! Also to note that it could do with a new tyre soonish and needs a P3 service soon. Good points * Love, love, love the Nismo kit * Is the colour (both interior and exterior) that I've always wanted. * Garage/dealer is about 20 miles away and car comes with 3 month warranty. * As luck would have it a colleague of mine knows the bloke that runs the garage and a quick phone call knocked £500 off the price before I'd set foot in the showroom. * Garage were very good at letting us view the car in peace and not at all pushy. Also more than happily gave us photocopies of the registration documents for us to check MOT history online (there were a few things it failed on in Feb 10's MOT but all delt with). Cheers for the offer of going to take a look Pete - I'm actually meant to be going for a test drive with my Dad tomorrow - is there any more info I can ping your way to save you a trip? (I only live in Chester by the way ) Also cheers to those selling your Zeds who've sent info my way. I'm just so taken with the Nismo kit on this one! S.

Thanks Hassan. The car is at an independant dealers and is listed at £9k. A colleague knows the bloke who runs the garage and I got him introduce me on the phone to the dealer and was told £8.5k as I would be paying cash. The Parkers guide price for this spec car (full GT spec) at indie dealers with 86K is about £8,400 (and about £7,800 for a GT without the extras) although from what I've seen on PistonHeads and Autotrader the Parkers guide seems a bit wide of the mark when it comes to real world prices. S.

EDITED!! I've changed the title as I now know that the car was reg. in Oxford (thanks Pete) and the last owner was from the Selly Oak area of Birminghan and the owner before that from Newcastle near Stoke on Trent. If anyone has any info on the car then I'd be mighty grateful! Steve - hope you manage to find the perfect Zed you're after to be fair an extra £200 a year isn't an awful lot to spend but I'm unfortunately looking at the cheaper end of the market as I'm a cheapskate! I'm starting to regret my penny pinching ways though as to save cash I've always been a named driver on other people's insurance which means I've not yet got any no years claims of my own at the ripe old age of 27. Doh!