SteveM

you got a close up of the damage / dent to the back box?

I'm so hungry

stick with it Stevo... it will get easier honestly! its your body craving the easy fuel you used to give it. force it to start using teh fat stores instead and once its used to it the hunger will go and the fat will just drop off you mate.

drink plenty of water and snack little and often on good things... i guess i only go about 3 hours tops between eating something! zero fat yogurt, protein shake or bar, cashew nuts, carrot or celery sticks, an apple, small bowl of cereal, packet of chicken or a chicken breast with some peri peri sauce, your pop corn stuff that you like... honestly mate keep snacking and drinking loads of water with a good lunch and nice low fat low carb high protein dinner and you are onto a winner!

the key for me is excersise! i only get so far with a diet and then i have to start upping the excersise.. i have started cycling to work on nice days like today, its not that far (11 miles each way) but its enough!!! i am still going to the gym to do my weights and still going swimming for half an hour or so a week. just walking is ok but its not going to really shed those pounds.

what i did was diet for a month and then start excersise... i worked on the basis that if i lost a few pounds first the excersise would be easier so i wouldnt fail and it worked!!!

stick with it and by xmas you will be like a different person!

Well, they didn't have a smoothie place in town (WIll make my own at home tonight once I've done the BIG shop) So I changed from my usual morrisons meals deal (BLT/Yogurt pot with choclate flakes/Coke) and hot sausage roll, - To a pack of Fresh British roast chicken wings from Waitrose? Wasn't sure if that was better or worse, but when I did actually work out And was trying to get protein etc, this was a good substitute to the crap I ate.

 

It's a one off but would like to know if that was a good or bad choice for the future.

prob not brilliant as the chicken wings wil have meant you eating the skin which holds a lot of the fat... prob a bit better than the usual choice though... go for the packs of grllled or steamed chicken breast instead

fair play taking the Z fishing! i have worked out i could fit stalking gear in mine but being a roadster i would have to have the roof down and stuff sticking out of the top to get much more in! certainly couldnt fit in my normal kit that i take!!!!

off the top is the best way to have them! the last few decent ones i had were in very shallow water but not off the top.. still cant complain!

whte flour = simple carbs = sugar and little nutritional value and spike the sugar levels

brown bread = complex carbs = rich in fiber and longer to digest and don't raise the sugar levels in the blood as quickly

i felt rubbish for the first 2 weeks...... then it just clicked

should start the day with a decent breakfast then mid morning have a SMALL snack... little and often is the key to keeping things ticking over.. drink plenty of water to fill you up

no records broken but plenty of sport, a fiver well spent on the ticket

 

nice... am off out bankside for the weekend myself

not taking the Z though!

its honestly not 'just eat salad all the time' get some of the above mentioned snacks and choose a more healthy option... drop the crisps, chocolate and redbull and buy some protien rich snacks instead.. drink plenty of water and it will make a huge difference

other snacks.... by snack i mean a small amount not a whole packet

Nuts

Nuts contain monounsaturated fats, which can lower your total cholesterol and LDL cholesterol levels, while clearing your arteries and preventing the build up of arterial plaque. Nuts are high in protein, so they help you feel full. Nuts are also high in the antioxidant vitamin E, as well as fiber and magnesium.

Sunflower Seeds

Sunflower seeds contain a lot of the same healthy nutrients as nuts. Choose low salt or salt free sunflower seeds; the salt on the shells can make this healthy snack much less healthy after all.

Peanut and Nut Butters

Peanut and other nut butters are rich in protein, which can help keep you feeling full in between healthy meals. You can eat peanut butter all by itself, or add it to fruit, crackers or a smoothie. Peanut butter is a great healthy snack, but don't eat too much, because it's also high in calories.

Smoothies

Fruit smoothies are a great healthy snack and can even be used to replace healthy lunches if you put in enough ingredients. Smoothies can contain up to 600 calories, as many as some healthy meals, and can keep you feeling full for hours.

You can make smoothies yourself in your blender at home, with ingredients like fruit, yogurt and peanut butter. Many juice bars and cafes also offer smoothies on the menu. For extra protein, ask for an added shot of whey powder. Just be advised that smoothies are often high in fructose (fruit sugar), and that sugar can lead to weight gain if it's not burned off.

Beef Jerky

Beef jerky is a healthy snack that's high in protein. An ounce of jerky contains about 80 calories, 12 grams of protein and 1 gram of fat.

Buy your jerky at a health food store or whole foods grocery. However, be sure to read the label, as many brands of jerky are high in sodium.

Low or Non Fat Yogurt

An eight ounce cup of yogurt contains about 3 grams of fat and 150 calories. Yogurt is also high in protein and a good source of dietary calcium. Some studies show that consuming three eight ounce servings of low fat yogurt each day can help you lose weight. In addition, many low fat recipes use low fat yogurt as a healthy substitute for sour cream.

If you need a burst of energy while dieting, consider munching on one of the previously mentioned snacks.

Popcorn can be very healthy snack, as long as it's not drenched in butter and salt. Popcorn is high in fiber and low in calories. Air popped popcorn is the best. Check the labels on microwave popcorn, as many brands contain high levels of sodium and fat.

So the main thing to remove is sugar/carbohydrates something with 12.1 grams of Carbohydrate and 3.3g of which sugars

 

 

iss that very bad

depends how heavy it is to start with.... 12.1 grams in 500 grams is pretty low but 12.1 grams in 20 grams is not... as bullet has said dont get tied up in the details just yet.. make smart / healthy choices and it will make a difference.. doesnt take a genius to work out a grille chicken on brown gread with salad is going to be more healthy than a burger covered in mayo with a side of chips

 

how tall did you say you was again?

6ft 4in

alrighty, my money is on StevoD, in both percentage terms and absolute terms. starting at 18st the weight will come off easy, but starting at 13st theres not a lot else to come off.

 

 

this is it the way grund was talking i was expecting 15 or maybe 16 st 13 aint even worth doing

of course its worth doing... you will drop far more weight as you have more to lose so even though he has less to drop it will still work out pretty fair on percentage terms

i weighed in at the gym last night... end of feb i was 21st.... last night i was 17st 2lb.... this time next week i WILL be into the 16s...

feel honest question as i feel i may have jumped at grundys challenge a bit quick; and please dont take offence

but do you guys ever go out and socialize as in like when you buds go down the pub do you just not go or do you go and ask for water?

beer is not your friend but i still have a couple of pints here and there. its about choodsing a lifestyle you can live with and for me that includes the odd beer here and there

Same thing but like im due to g o meet an old school friends for a nandos soon does this mean nothing from nandos can be eaten?

Nandos + chicken + good. just try and keep away from the chips and choose a salad.... if you ask most places will happliy exchange for you

im still confused about bread so can brown bread be eaten safely or is it a case you do it at your own risk kinda jobbie?

Brown bread is better than white bread but just limit your intake. if you are not doing loads of excersise to burn off the carbs a whole loaf of brown bread will still end up keeping weight on

Ketchup and other sauces guess you guys avoid like the plague?

everything in moderation! a small amount of ketchup wont kill you... a bucket of mayo is not good... try and go for vinigary dressing like balsamic with a small amount of olive oil

Is it a 100% chance of failure if you dont drop everything, like a difference between making it healthier and training like the blooming rock haha

not at all. you will prob lose weight quicker if you drop everything but just buy changing your diet to a more healthhy option and keeping the odd treat with a bit more excersise the pounds will drop off you

there is a few more but arms feel like jelly and my back hurts from going down the range for like 3 hours yesterday And thats not even really exercise

it will be hard at first! give yourself a month and see how it goes.. i bet by the end of the month you will see and feel the benifit then it becomes addictive!

As an incentive we should Tough Mudder next year as a Zed group.

judging by the pics of chirag we could all stop training now and have him drag us round and we would still complete it!

Well Stevo, it's the 1st on Friday, I'll try eat healthy for a month along with the 7min work out - I challenge you to a duel!

you up for this Stevo... give it a month?

there are loads out there... or go to muscle foods and get ready made to start

4 skinless, boneless chicken breasts, 4 oz. each

1 tsp. Mrs. Dash or other salt-free seasoning

4 slices fat-free Swiss cheese

4 slices low-fat deli ham

1â„2 cup seasoned bread crumbs

Nonstick cooking spray

Equipment:

• Baking dish
  

Instructions:

1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F and coat an 8x10-inch baking dish with cooking spray.
   
2. Pound chicken breasts to 1â„4-inch thickness and sprinkle both sides with seasoning. Place one slice of cheese and one slice of ham on each chicken breast. Roll up each breast and secure with toothpicks.
   
3. Place chicken in baking dish, seam side down, sprinkle with bread crumbs and bake for 30-35 minutes, or until chicken is no longer pink inside. For added fiber and vitamins, serve with steamed broccoli or asparagus. For more carbs in a mass-gaining phase, add a whole-grain
   

great dinner alternative...

Balsamic Salmon Quinoa Salad

6 oz salmon filet (skinless, preferably wild-caught)

3 cups fresh spinach leaves, chopped

3/4 cup cooked quinoa (Cook according to package directions, omitting any butter or oil.)

1 tbsp light balsamic vinaigrette

1 tbsp balsamic vinegar

salt and pepper, to taste

Instructions:

1. Season salmon with salt and pepper. Put small nonstick frying pan over medium-high heat. Add salmon. Cook until desired doneness, about 2–3 minutes per side (turn down heat if it’s overbrowning before desired doneness is reached; the fish should be slightly translucent in center).
   
2. Meanwhile, mix balsamic vinaigrette with vinegar.
   
3. Put chopped spinach in large shallow bowl. Top with quinoa and salmon. Drizzle dressing over top. Toss if desired.
   

scrambled is still good

i dont think you will want to or be up for the 0 carb diet....... so just change from white rice to brown, normal pasta to wholewheat, white bread to brown / granery (spelling) dont use butter or marg spread.. buy some salad / chicken / steak and maybe some of those protein cookies / flapjacks from www.musclefood.com oh and also pick up some eggs

try a couple of poached / boiled or fried (not loads of oil) eggs on some brown bread toast for breakfast, a handfull of almonds or cashews or even a protein flapjack mid morning... a simple chisken salad for lunch and then have your main meal with brown rice or pasta or even another salad and see how you get on. keep a bottle of water on the go as it helps things ticking over and keeps off hunger

it depends how HARD you want to hit this diet thing....

i went HARD! no carbs... shock and awe... but you dont have to!

lol

confusing isnt it.....