Gearbox servicings

[taffyjason]

Probably an old quest, but i couldnt find a satisfactory answer, but do you guys and gals know anyone who can refurb the DE gearbox? i know historically there wasnt, but any new updates? Only solution i can find was a replacement, i hope i can find an alternative.

 

Cheers

[Mark@Abbey m/s]

We can rebuild your gearbox for you.

[taffyjason]

What sort of costs are to be expected?

 

Cheers

[andlid]

buy my old one and have that refurbed

[taffyjason]

lol, well a one for one swap with someone would be preferable, i know they are rare as hens teeth!

 

I assume you replaced yours with a rebuild/low milage one?

[Mark@Abbey m/s]

What's the issue with yours? Synchro's or noisy?

[taffyjason]

Not so much noise, second gear on some days is almost unusable, seems that most gears are getting increasingly difficult and it sometimes feels like stirring coal...but tonight from cold it was smooth as silk....its an odd 'box! but definitely getting worse. I think the release bearing is on its way out too, seems to be rattly at times.

 

I know its not a great design, but looking at options to helping this gearchange, its the only real let down of an otherwise nice car

[andlid]

lol, well a one for one swap with someone would be preferable, i know they are rare as hens teeth!

 

I assume you replaced yours with a rebuild/low milage one?

what year and miles is yours? Mine packed in at 70k/km 3rd was crunching (is) fourth felt really hard to get in, crunch in 1st and 2nd but that went away replacing (hopefully happening as I type this..) with a CD009 donor box that has better design and should last a good bit longer. What oil are you / have you been using? When I stuck Nissan oem oil in and a shot of.. mmm can't remember what it's called it behaved better, think I knackered mine with shortshifter / redline oil combo!

 

Might be better trying to get a CD009 depending on refurbing costs.

[taffyjason]

well cheapest ive seen a CD009 was around the 1K mark ...ouch..

 

My garage uses Valvoline and some friction reducing additive, whilst general characteristics improved, the basic problems remained, as i understand the synchro's are weak in that box

[Daryl]

lol, well a one for one swap with someone would be preferable, i know they are rare as hens teeth!

 

I assume you replaced yours with a rebuild/low milage one?

what year and miles is yours? Mine packed in at 70k/km 3rd was crunching (is) fourth felt really hard to get in, crunch in 1st and 2nd but that went away replacing (hopefully happening as I type this..) with a CD009 donor box that has better design and should last a good bit longer. What oil are you / have you been using? When I stuck Nissan oem oil in and a shot of.. mmm can't remember what it's called it behaved better, think I knackered mine with shortshifter / redline oil combo!

 

Might be better trying to get a CD009 depending on refurbing costs.

 

If the CD009 box is the one from the HR,then i was pretty reliably informed that these do not fit on the De engine,and the Bell housing is a different shape,so maybe worth checking if you havnt already that it will fit.

 

To the OP,trying genuine Nissan gearbox oil with Moly slip and see how you get on with that,as you may save yourself a fortune.

[taffyjason]

Always worth a try i guess!

[Daryl]

For less than £100 you have nothing to loose really.

[taffyjason]

this would make it the third oil choice change in less than a year! it will be the cleanest gearbox going!

[Daryl]

There has been alot of topics on making the gearbox smoother etc,and many garages think that putting any rated gearbox oil in is fine,but you will find that using the proper Nissan stuff with the Moly slip additive will probably make a bigger difference than you think,and will improve the shift more than any other oil combo.

[taffyjason]

well the additive my engineer put in swears its as good as molyslip, but who knows! always worth a try on your suggestion

 

i can't do much for the next few months as im away, but its top of the list for next project

[taffyjason]

is it possible the linkages can wear and cause some of these issues?

[andlid]

CD009 will fit on a DE.

 

Anyway, 1k for a CD009 shop around mate, got mine for 60% less of 1k...

[Mark@Abbey m/s]

Rebuilding the gearboxes isn't cheap , especially if it need s a couple of synchro's and a bearing or 2, but buying a S/H ( pre-owned) gearbox you maybe in the same position in a short time or straight away.

 

Rebuild the gearbox you know it will be spot on and your have a piece of mind.

 

I would need to study the part listing on the gearboxes to see what the difference is between the late and early gearboxes.

 

It is a hard job to estimate a cost to rebuild your gearbox until we have stripped your gearbox.

[taffyjason]

Are you able to offer refurbed boxes as a one for one swap? I wouldnt be able be off the road too long as im based in the middle of nowhere!

 

thanks for all your advice though

[andlid]

CD009 will fit on a DE.

 

Anyway, 1k for a CD009 shop around mate, got mine for 60% less of 1k...

Well... CD009 gearbox = no good

 

suppose that's what you can get hit with if unlucky. At least stung with the labor on fitting the gearbox now, and x2 that also

 

Still think CD009 is the way to go instead of servicing the current one.

[taffyjason]

I've been on the hunt for a CD009, seems the cheapest so far is around 1k, i figure the sellers realise they can mostly get away with it, regardless of how much its worth! i'll keep hunting though..

 

Today the box has been very nice to me, all slick changes...but then it does in the warm...come winter, its a miserable cranky old thing, really doesnt want to get out of bed!