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Its ok bud, sorry, I was being a little flipant as I have the base clarion model. They arent a bad system but can skip for a while when you start off on cold days.

 

They are pretty good but I guess it depends how much you are into ICE upgrades. For me theyfit the bill but some guys have really got into upgrades.

 

To give you a clue, I still have cassettes. :blush:

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