trackpig

Doesn't this run the risk of sucking up chippings into your brakes?

There's no sucking action as such but a stone could get blown into the pipe. I cant imagine the stone would make it up the pipe but if it did it would probably just fall out from the space around the back of the disc hub.

If was a still a concern, some mesh could be fitted over the inlet of the pipe to block any debris but its not something I am worried about.

I tried to mount the pipe to the caliper with tie wraps and other methods but found I could not get a strong enough fix. This is why I went for the plate- it holds the pipe right into the hub of the disc without rubbing on it. This allows the air to flow through the internal vanes of the disc and cool the whole disc rather than just one face of it.

I feel a funnel or duct at the front of the pipe is not needed- if you were to drive at 80mph and put a section of pipe out of the window into the direction of the air flow, you would feel just how much air is blasted though the pipe- the setup has proved to work on track.

As for costs- I had to buy the pipe, metal sheeting and tools. The materials are not cheap, the metal sheet has to be the correct thickness- as the plate is mounted via the caliper bolt, the plate cannot be too thick as the bolt would not then be long enough to protude through the caliper.

I also dont have CNC facilities so the plates have to be made by hand (marking out, drilling, cutting and fileing) which takes time.

I didnt make the cooling ducts to make cash, just to get cooler brakes and they work. I would however make some more complete kits up for others but I wont do it for free. Once P&P, paypal fees, material costs and my time (getting it to work, purchasing tools and materials and making the kits up) is taken into account there not much in it.

Ive done the hard work and I dont think £45 is unreasonable.

LOoks well mate

 

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Here are some I prepared earlier:

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=40898

It turned out to be a good night, its an enjoyable track and very technical.

Love it great work. TBH i bet you can hardly tell its there.

Cheers.

If you look at the second pic, I could position the pipe slightly further back for the spliter so it would not be possible to see the pipe unless you got right under the car.

It turned out to be a good night. Its a very enjoyable track!

Getting a hedgehog stuck in there there would play havoc with my disc temps!

I looked at doing it like that but it would require holes to be cut in the under tray, it would then cause problems with the routing of the pipe when the wheels are turned from lock to lock.

The way I have it at the moment means the pipes do not have to be seen, do not fowl the wheels at full lock, no holes are drilled in the under tray or bumper and the whole lot can be fitted in under 15mins a side.

It is more of a functional mod than a styling mod.

Maybe so, but then you have to start cutting holes in your bumper to mount them.

Each to their own though, my cooling pipes can be mounted slightly further back under the bumper so you cant even see them.

Hi all

I ran cooling pipes on my E36 M3 after having brake problems on road and track. The pipes kept the temperatures down and extended braking performance. After having the same initial problems on the Z, I fitted cooling pipes before the Nurburgring trip I’ve just been on. The brakes were great- I wrote about the brake setup here:

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=38546

I wanted to make the setup a little more permanent and solid so I’ve been busy in the garage and knocked up some brackets to hold the cooling pipe right into the disk. I also looked into some new style pipe that is a larger diameter and a lot more robust.

I have tested the new duct setup on the road and just recently on track at Teesside Autodrome which is pretty hard on the brakes.

We fitted a second set of ducts to my friends Z and he gave the brakes some abuse on track. He has EBC disks and ds3000 pads. Previously he had bad pad transfer at the Nurburgring which cleared up with some road use. This time around with the ducts fitted, the brakes just kept going, lap after lap! As a test we then blocked the passenger side duct with tape to simulate the ducts not being fitted. The effect was plain to see as we ran into the dark- the passenger side disc started to glow orange, while the driver side disc remained normal. Result!

Some pics:

I've just fitted a set of EBC red's front and rear, I'd heard some good reports, and it was said they produced not much dust, now I'm reading the opposite on this thread. Have I just wasted £120 ?

I had stock OEM's fitted, loads of material left, but they squealed constantly, and faded quite badly when warm.

I have used reds on the road, they were fine but do fade under hard driving. I found they put very little dust onto the wheel compared to other pads ive used.

Cheers.

There are people who maybe would take part from the North East but dont tend to read the trackday section of the forum.

Thanks for taking the time to add your constructive comment.

Hi

A few of my friends and me are going to take a trip to Teesside autodrome on Saturday 4th September. It’s our first trip on to this little track, it should be a good night out and a nice change from getting boozed up or watching x factor!

Track time starts at 6pm and runs to 10pm. The track has floodlights for when darkness falls -Good for pictures I should think.

We are taking 2x 350’z, vx220 turbo, civic type r and my MNR (R1 powered kit car). It would be nice to try and turn it into a bit of a mini 350z meet and as track time is 4 hours for only £79, its a good way to lose the trackday virginity without worrying too much about tyre and brake wear.

There are plenty of youtube vids of the track. The website is here:

http://thetrackdayclub.com/

Hope to see some of you there.

-I do not have any connection to the track- I just want to see our local facilities continue so I can keep using them -

Hi

A few of my friends and me are going to take a trip to Teesside autodrome on Saturday 4th September. It’s our first trip on to this little track, it should be a good night out and a nice change from getting boozed up or watching x factor!

Track time starts at 6pm and runs to 10pm. The track has floodlights for when darkness falls -Good for pictures I should think.

We are taking 2x 350’z, vx220 turbo, civic type r and my MNR (R1 powered kit car). It would be nice to try and turn it into a bit of a mini 350z meet and as track time is 4 hours for only £79, its a good way to lose the trackday virginity without worrying too much about tyre and brake wear.

There are plenty of youtube vids of the track. The website is here:

http://thetrackdayclub.com/

Hope to see some of you there.

-I do not have any connection to the track- I just want to see our local facilities continue so I can keep using them -

I have continental contact sport 3 on the rears and RE050as on the fronts.

This setup came with the rays I purchased and I've stuck with them.

The car feels very neutral- I am happy with it.

I would always prefer 4 matched tyres though.

To sum up- 4 good quality matched tyres is the best bet, 2 different sets of good quality tyres are still ok but just be aware of varying grip levels in wet and dry conditions from the different tyres.

Kudos to the GF to go with you let alone take the car out on the ring Loved the left handers when all of a sudden there was alot of blond hair floating in front of the camera

 

FAIL on the Honda Tshirt... take it the indo is on the left hand side on UK Zs... Does the Z not have tensioners on the seatbelt? Or are you driving without Looks a bit strange that one, mine tense the seatbelt so you sit solid in the seat, finally on youtube clips = TSC on or off? (thought I saw some flashing lights there...)

 

Interesting regarding the clutch fluid, something that I've overlooked also might be worth to replace, I got a braided line so that'll go in at the same time. Some trip... those 10£ cameras do the job!

 

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Petrol cost?

I must have missed your post earlier-

Honda t shirt- I like it, what can I say.

Indicator on the left hand side on my car.

Seat belts on

TCS off

Airbag warning light flashing due to wiring in seat and tilting seat forward to access luggage.

I certainly did sh*t myself when the clutch pedal hit the floor! Easy job to change fluid.

£10 ebay cameras are great!

Fuel ~ £500.

Great vids!

 

And you made the crossing on my ferry!! (I work on the Maersk Dunkerque, although just renamed Dunkerque Seaways)

 

WHere abouts it North East you from? There is a NE meet coming up in a few weeks....

Come on then, how can you tell which ferry we were on from the vid? I think you are right by the way!

I am in Sunderland, I'll have a look in the North east section for the meet details.

How much did you spend on petrol if you dont mind me asking, i've done long car trips like this the last 2 years but always taken a diesel, would be interesting to see how much it'd be in the Zed.

It cost just under £500 all in for petrol ( thats fuel for the Nurburgring added in).

The ferry was £60.

£560 for travel for 9 days for two people is not too bad.

great throughout. I also have ATE superblue fluid with standard discs.

 

I have not used DS2500 personally. A friend fitted DS3000 to his car for the same Eurotrip as me me and has suffered bad brake judder. They are also very dusty.

 

I am not slagging off any pads here, just offering my/ my friends experiences.

 

Just for your information DS3000's are not meant for the road, they are meant for high operating temperatures and have a fairly high wear rate hence the serious amount of dust.

I am aware of the track only status of ds3000 pads. My mate is an extreme type of person who demands pads which can take high temperatures while driving to work/ shops/ on track.

Even so, I dont think he would go ds3000 again.

I have used both EBC Red and Yellow on the 350z on road and track:

EBC red are fine for road use. They work from cold and are good up to point when the temps rise. They give off very little dust even on a track day.

EBC yellows work from cold and work on track very very well especially for the price. They give of more dust than Reds.

The yellowstuff on my car have done 10 fairly qiuck laps of the nurburgring and a run up and down stelvio pass without brake fade ( I do have cooling pipes fitted though). They felt great throughout. I also have ATE superblue fluid with standard discs.

I have not used DS2500 personally. A friend fitted DS3000 to his car for the same Eurotrip as me me and has suffered bad brake judder. They are also very dusty.

I am not slagging off any pads here, just offering my/ my friends experiences.

Trackpig, just out of curiosity, are you required to provide some form of Track Insurance?

 

I was chatting to a bloke at Adrian Flux insurance and mentioned something about Nurburgring Motor Sport providing such insurance. Just wondered if it's a requirement or not?

 

Cheers

Insurance is the big problem with the Tourist days at the ring.

Alot of insurance companies specifically exclude cover on the nurburgring in their terms and conditions. Other companies with still try to recover any claims from you even if nothing was mentioned in the term and conditions. Trackday cover is no good as a tourist day is not a trackday.

To sum it up, you need writen confirmation from your insurance company that they will cover you in the event of an accident on a tourist day but dont hold your breath.

I dont know of any UK insurance companies that will cover damage to your car, the track and anyone injured by an accident.

I drive on a standard uk road policy- this is ok and the german police will be happy with this but I dont expect to be able to make a claim if it all goes wrong.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... 0Insurance

Not the greastest vids but here you go: