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Correction Guys. RSR Coulsdon on the Ullswater estate. Think thats because we were slating WLMG Sough at the time :)No mistake on the price as we took a lexus 600 hybrid down and got charged the same.

I got trade as my mate owns a company called Performance Sports Cars and they let me off the balancing and just charged for the Alignment. I get Trade myself as before I got to ill to work I restored leather car interiors (4releatherrestoration) more as a hobby as I never knew what to charge people. The only colour I will touch now is black and thats my own as they are simple to do. anyway going off topic. Not sure about the true cost of tyres but I paid £803 for the 2 x 275/40/18's and 2 x 240/45/18's no charge for balancing or taking a brand new tyre of another Ray. I give them a drink and I think if you look after people they will look after you. Unfortunately RSR have been taken over so the odd little exhaust rattle repair or quick pad change has had to stop. I even have a guy who used to work for RSR (Bruce) who if you give him enough work will charge £30 per wheel instead of going rate of £50 to smooth out those flying pavement attacks:)

Really must read over my posts as i confuse myself let alone anyone else.

Oh any cures for gear nob rattles? I got a carbon Nismo (£80) and at certain revs it sounds like a leaf flapping in the air vent!

The trip to Preston wore the tyres in this weekend and well pleased.

Peter

Full Geometary test and 4 wheels balanced on my Zed that I got from WLMG £75 from RSR Ullswater trading estate Slough.

WLMG do not have the laser alignment equipment that RSR have. So I think they may contract the work out and lump a bit on for themselves. In this case a good deal. The RSR uses a ramp that lifts the car into the air and you put a checkered octangle looking checkered patterned paddle on each wheel, and the machine throws a laser at each wheel simulatiously and gives a colour code Red it's out of tolerance. Green it's in. Then it's just a matter of turning the nut on the camber arm left or right until the red turns to green and fine tune. I did do a post on it. WLMG put 2 new tyres on both the Zeds l got from them and both cars had not been balanced. I even watched the guy at Shepperton do my Nissan Pathfinder. He span the wheel. Put the weights on then instead of spinning the wheel again, he went to take it of to put it on the vehicle. I made him spin it again and it was 5 grams out of balance.

I would only use them for Warranty work.

PM if you want details. I am away until Monday midday but it would pay to travel. I do get trade discount, but I am sure if you let other members know where you are they will steer you on the right track.

 

Incidently in Grimsby my mate runs a coach company. The drivers are always smacking the wheels and he gets charged £90 for every coach!! You are having the pee taken out of you at those prices.

Regards

Peter WLMG

Full Geometary test and 4 wheels balanced on my Zed that I got from WLMG £75 from RSR Ullswater trading estate Slough.

WLMG do not have the laser alignment equipment that RSR have. So I think they may contract the work out and lump a bit on for themselves. In this case a good deal. The ramp that lifts the car into the air and you put a checkered octangle looking checkered patterned paddle on each wheel, and the machine throws a laser at each wheel simulatiously and gives a colour code REd it's out of tolerance. Green it's in. Then it's just a matter of turning the nut on the camber arm left or right until the red turns to green and fine tune. I did do a post on it. WLMG put 2 new tyres on both the Zeds i got from them and both cars had not been balanced. I even watched the guy at Shepperton do my Nissan Pathfinder. He span the wheel. Put the weights on then instead of spinning the wheel again, he went to take it of to put it on the vehicle. I made him spin it again and it was 5 grams out of balance.

I would only use them for Warranty work.

PM if you want details. I am away until Monday midday but it would pay to travel. I do get trade discount, but I am sure if you tlet other members know where you are they will steer you on the right track.

Incidently in Grimsby my mate runs a coach company. The drivers are always smacking the wheels and he gets charged £90 for every coach!! You are having the pee taken out of you at those prices.

Regards

Peter WLMG

Ok Folks it's all sorted now and a big thank you to everyone especially Chris`I as I actually understood what he was saying:)

One the rear I have the Bridgestones. 275/40/18. And the front 245/40/18. £800 with discount.

No traction problems and it really does feel "Planted" it thats the correct word to use.

Anyway within 20 mins of putting them on I overtook a slow van on the A217 Banstead By-pass and drove straight over 2 lumps of 4x4

laying slapp bang in my path. I slowed but a double bump at 50mph had me fuming.

Glad to say I was extreamly lucky as the only damage was a sprained right wrist and a dent in my ego.

Anyway a nice 4 hre drive to Preston tomorrow should run them in.

I hear there is a meet for Toyota MR2's and some other jap stuff at the Ace of Spades cafe Sunday week.

My mate said he knows of a few Zeds that will attend so I am going along.

Might see some of you there!

later

Peter

I think I should change my ID to NERDI !!

I knew it. As soon as I go and get a gear nob and handbrake someone comes along with something better.

Sod Law!

http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=25166

Thanks for that. Sometimes you can't see the wood for the trees

I am having same problem as you. No answer even though there is someone that makes them on here.

Those other 2 you mentioned. I asked him about fitment and he wrote back saying i might need a mod made up for it to fit.

So i am steering clear as it looks like a long job!!

Peter

Hi. Do you make the chrome handbrake lever's please?

If not can you direct me to someone who does as \u know someone on here does make them !

Thanks

Peter

this member makes gearknobs, any use -

 

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=23151

Thanks for that. All i know is this guy makes Nobs and brake levers:)

Thought I would try this thread as it concerns "Handbrakes" I was told by a couple of the members that there is a chap you makes gear and handbrake levers on this site?

I did ask 3-4 times over the last week and apart from a few jokes, no one seems to be able to help, and I can't find him in the adverts.

So if someone could actually help and link me to him I would be obliged.

This is quite important as I can't stand the site of this rubbish bit of ugly black plastic car any longer.

Thanks in advance.

Peter

Ok guys a big thank you for all your input and I have ordered 245/40/18 for the front and 274/40/18 for the back.

Thats got to be £1100?

Must put the others I took off in the sale section as fronts only done 900 miles a rear 1500.

Cheers

Peter

There is nothing wrong with the oem on the car. I just wanted to widen the backs, to fill out the arches a bit so took the width up 3 sizes. As 275/40/18 only has a 0-07% different I am banking on them working. So I will get them changed the backs 1st and go for a run.

Then if I can get away with the 245/45/18 OEM from the rear and put them on the front I will. But the difference between stock 225/45/18 and 245/45/18 is +2.73%

Not sure how it's got into such a mess or why such a simple thing should be so complicated.

When I got the Zed I joined 2 Forums. This and another. One of them had all the sizes and combinations for the Zed on a chart that a member had compiled. Ask me can I find it? Actually no don't ask. I will print of your input and arm myself with it when i go to the tyre place. Thats if it ever ever stops blooming raining? Even my Tropical fish are hiding!!

Peter

OEM - 225/45/18 and 245/45/18 gives a 2.73% difference. (think thats the OEM sizes, been a while since I did this)

 

275/40/18 and 245/45/18 gives a 0.15% difference between them, so its likely to throw a wobbler.

 

275/45/18 and 245/45/18 gives a 3.83% difference which from what I remember sounds about right, but might be too much the other way. You ideally want about 3% difference as it is with the OEM setup.

Thats exactly what the tyre Bible says. However they have ordered the tyres and swear it will be OK.

I am really starting to loose it big time because what one would think would be an easy task has turned out to be a troublesome nightmare.

It can be very unnerving when it happens and TCS in the 350z isnt exactly subtle so I can see why it'd scare the crap out of anyone

 

I had to do it on my old 350z when swapping some wheels around and had my Rotas at the rear and Rays the front. They were both 18" wheels but the Rotas had a lower RR on them (by design and recommendation of an old trader on here), which was fine with all 4 Rotas as the RR front to back compensated, but with Rays on the front the TCS went mental, very unnerving I learnt a lot about how the TCS worked that day after thinking my car was broken

Does this mean that if it does it again when I put the 275/40/18 on the frear and the oem rear 245/45/18 on the front

It might throw another wobbly? And if it does instead or taking the rears off this time. Put the 225/45/18 oem back on the front!

I am now officially on Prozac and class 1 pain killers as my brain just fryed!!!

1 wheel has minor kerb and is hardley noticable but the rest are excellent and like I said. One brand new (Not refurb)

It may have got wet as it was lost in the South China seas for a few months:) Joke.

I witness it's arrival from Japan and it is not a cheap item.

The car is a early 2009 with 11300mls on the clock. And i wash my wheels in a mild solution of cleaner every week.

However the tyres are bought and paid for and I have a supercharger to payfor so need to keep in a budget.

Waiting for Abbey to come back with the shipping price but it's a £10k job

Wheels will be about the only thing I will put on the outside. Under the bonnet and interior. umm well thats a different matter:)

peter

Good to hear they have a tech that has a 350z, he should know that the RR of front and rear tyres is not the same. Thats where 99% of tyre fitters go wrong as for the majority of cars the RR on all wheels is the same, whereas front to rear they are different on the 350z.

 

I assume you are aware that fitting tyres with a greater RR than OEM fitment will make your speedo under read the cars speed and will compensate for that accordingly (ie the car will report you are doing a slower speed than you actually are). In reality it may well balance up the fact that as stock it over reads the cars speed and give you an accurate speedo reading

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg4.html

275/40/18 on the rear will give a Difference in circumference of -1.5mm or - 0.07%

So when your speedo reads 70mph, you're actually travelling at 69.95

With the 275/35/18 on the rear gave a Difference in circumference of -84.44mm or - 4.13%

So when your speedo reads 70mph, you're actually travelling at 67.11.

Blimey I am knackerd now!!!

TCS will only be upset by the difference between the front and rear rolling radius of tyres. It doesnt give a @*!# if your speedo is wrong. It can only work out if the wheel is slipping if it thinks the rear wheels are spinning faster than the front. By default the front tyres are 3% less RR than the rears - ie the rear tyres are 3% larger in circumference (IIRC). This is all the TCS cares about, if you keep this the same then the car will be happy and you can run whatever size tyres you like, smaller or larger RR, it doesnt care as long as it thinks the rear wheels are spinning a bit slower than the fronts (in absolute terms) therefore it sees them as spinning the same speed (as it knows the rear wheel is bigger).

 

Hope that makes sense

I only put that link to Tyre Bible as it has a load of correct info for newbies like myself and gives it in laymans terms.

I only described what happened when I put 275/35/18 on the back. I honestly thought the front was rubbing as i went into panic mode

> but after a chill pill it had to be the rears if that slip light came on.

I am beginning to think I should have bought that Ferrari 456 that i liked. but then i suppose I would be under the bonnet all the time and on a forum full of horay henry's instead of a bunch of rough necks like us ha ha:)

Peter

The wheels in that pic are Work Equips, Ive got a pair for sale in fairly similar sizes available if you are interested .......

 

Tell me about your Rays, model, size, offset, tyres, condition and Ill tell you what they are worth

 

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They are what ever came out of the factory 18's with one brand spanking new front at tyre 245/45/18

What ever it came out of the factory with I hope. Plus 35 psi in the tyres:)

I have a fat bugger of a mate that lowers the car considerably ha ha.

It's all sorted now thanks. The rear OEM 245/45/18's that are on the rear will go back on the front as we tried them yesterday.

Plus many many people on here do the same thing. Then 275/40/18 on the rear.

A guy that works at tyre fitters who was not there yesterday has a 350z and runs the above combo on his 2007 GT with

no probs at all.

Peter

Should have said the only colour apart from the obvious that compliments a Silver car apart from those nice chrome ones is Black.

How much were they as the look great.

Wonder how much my rays are worth. I even have a brand new one with unused 225/45/18 Potenza so thats five all told.

Trouble is with insurance companies they consider larger tyres or Chrome wheels as a mod. then they rub their hands together and proclaim that the wheels make it more knickable and want more dosh! Tell them you have no mods and they send their own assessor to check the car and he sees ya lubbly jubbly shiney's and the swine will berrate you with a barrarge of rules and word plays!

The car God demands a sacrifice!!

Peter

I only have the OEM 245 on the back at the moment so 275 will be a lot better for me. Plus due to a medical condition I am forced to visit at least one Hospital a week come rain or shine. And I am fortold that the RE050'S have excellent grip in the wet over the 040's!

Funny how thing work out. My last car was a Nissan pathfinder Adventura. And the OEM were Bridgestone twin Dueler. I gave them away and put General Grabbers on. Silly really as the Duelers were new and £170 each so I should have charged him £200 mate or no mate!

Peter

It does go on the manuel as i tried but they relocated the 4 way flasher button behind the gear lever and there is no hole cut out for it.

From what I could understand from the lady is they need OEM parts to make a mold.

I was not aware that the latest model's had a longer electric window and mirror panal? The carbon set you can see on ebay is about 3 inches short of covering it plus there is no cut out for the door pull and nothing seems to align up? It also has 2003- stamped on the box, which i did not know about until it arrived. Dont rush in and get that ugly stickon alloy thing. I have heard horror stories about them peeling in the sun and when you take them off the throw them in the rubbish, they pull the top layer of ya dash off with it!

Peter

Wait so if the rolling % is out the car will only limp? That's mad.

 

how much of a % can you get away with?

 

Sorry for threadjack.

No problem but I have not got a clue. If you Google Tyre bible http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg4.html (The calculator that a lot of tyre fitters use) then go to page 4 of 4 and down the bottom of the page is a calculator where you enter the fsize of the tyre you have on the rim and then entre the tyre you wish to put on the rim and it will calculate the plus and minus and tell you the real speed you are travelling when the speedo shows 70. For example with the OEM tyres the car will travel 70mph when the speedo shows 70.

No plus or minus difference.

A few examples then go try it yourselves. Make sure you use the tyre size calculator at the bottom of the page and not the offset one in the middle! If I change my rears from 245/45/18 to say 275/30/18 at a speedo reading of 70 you will have a minus % of -8.19

Which might be what I tried!. now enter 275/35/18 and you have a minus of -4.13. and lastly because you can all play with this until your hearts content. enter 275/40/18 = 0.07% at 70mph = 69.95 mph and thats as good as dam it.

Please all you old sweats remember i am not a tyre man I thought I knew a lot yesterday morning and when I went to bed I realised i knew nothing. Mind you even the tyre guys were puzzled and we send Ferraris their all the time, hence the trust.

Got to shoot as this is taking up to much of my time. The only people who know the answeres to your questions are the ones who have the same car as you and have worn the T_Shirt. Not me as I have a 2009 that i have owned for a few weeks and am a jinx:)

I Turned the traction control off. Think something got missed in the thread. I lost all drive as the car went into fail safe? As soon as I put the 245/45/18 back on it was fine.

To reiterate I put the rear on the front (245/45/18) and the RE050's on the rear. It was the aspect ratio that caused the problem

Inadvertantly 275/35/18 which if you were to enter into the calculator on page 4 of the Tyre Bible you will see it makes the car 6mph out!

However 275/40/18 is the correct tyre which I had all the calculations from the yanky 350z forum and I know someone running this combo which if fine.

Anyone who wants to witness what the effect this wrong combination has on my car is more than welcome to come along to RSR in Croydon (who i trust infatically) and I am sure if you pay them they will put the wrong combo on and I won't even reach the top of the lane.

We spoke direct to Bridgestone and Nissan technical department this very morning.

It's the old senario that if you put 10 people in a room for 5 mins then get them to write an independant description on the last 5 mins you would get 10 different answeres.

A good example was the carbon fibre interior kit i got yesterday. The description said 350 zed new carbon interior kit. When I got it I found it did not fit? Thats because I have a 2009 350 and this was a pre face lift kit. Know one thought to check because we tend to give advice about car or product that we own and no thought is spared to the question. "What do they own"?

The person who is at fault here is myself because l asked for the wrong tyre and thats what I got.

All I know is it refused to soldier and the combination of £500 on tyres and £335 on the carbon kit both of which had to be sent back

made for a very wasted day.

As usual guys, thanks for your imput, and I am sure the way out of this is to drive backwards off Beachy Head sticking my head in the clouds as I fall.

Knowing my luck l would survive.

Regards

Peter