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Clutch Issues 08' HR


Ben350
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Hello,

 

A bit over a month ago my stock slave cylinder on my zed failed. I took this opportunity to upgrade to a lightened flywheel, new clutch and heavy duty CSC. Unfortunately, today I've started having issues again.

 

The engagement point suddenly became very low, basically on the floor, and when trying to set off there is a lot of vibration, shaking and noise from the clutch. It also required a good bit of force to change between gears, but the pedal itself became very light and easy to depress. I assume the clutch isn't engaging and disengaging fully?

 

I had this issue very briefly a few days ago but after pumping the pedal and turning the car off and on it stopped, and the engagement point went back to its normal high position.

 

I'm under the impression it may be an issue with air in the system as as far as i know, the clutch system is hard to bleed and the job was done by a local garage, not a specialist.

 

If anyone has any experience with this and knows what might be up i'd be grateful for some advice.

 

Cheers.

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Just an update to anyone looking at this post with any similar issues in the future-

 

The juddering was caused by muck dust etc in the bell housing and on the clutch plate itself which was not cleaned out when the new clutch was put in.

 

The garage I went to simply blasted some compressed air through it and got a lot of it out, it's been back to normal ever since.

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On 11/10/2022 at 07:56, Ben350 said:

Just an update to anyone looking at this post with any similar issues in the future-

 

The juddering was caused by muck dust etc in the bell housing and on the clutch plate itself which was not cleaned out when the new clutch was put in.

 

The garage I went to simply blasted some compressed air through it and got a lot of it out, it's been back to normal ever since.

Hey Ben, 

 

Just installed a new stage 3 clutch kit with a heavy duty CSC and light flywheel. Had very similar problems as you. Lots of vibrations and shuttering in the cabin when taking off in 1st or reverse. Smoked the clutch reversing into my driveway too… it’s just hard taking off since it vibrates so much and bites so late. 
 

ended up installing a new master slave cylinder myself, bled the entire system myself too. Pedal feels good but however it still vibrates like crazy when taking off in 1st or reverse. Car has about 50 miles since installation of everything. 
 

im wondering if I should have a shop do the same thing with compressed air in the bell housing. I also was curious if they were able to do it without dropping the transmission? Or do you need to take everything apart just to clean most of it?  

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6 hours ago, Max Crider said:

Hey Ben, 

 

Just installed a new stage 3 clutch kit with a heavy duty CSC and light flywheel. Had very similar problems as you. Lots of vibrations and shuttering in the cabin when taking off in 1st or reverse. Smoked the clutch reversing into my driveway too… it’s just hard taking off since it vibrates so much and bites so late. 
 

ended up installing a new master slave cylinder myself, bled the entire system myself too. Pedal feels good but however it still vibrates like crazy when taking off in 1st or reverse. Car has about 50 miles since installation of everything. 
 

im wondering if I should have a shop do the same thing with compressed air in the bell housing. I also was curious if they were able to do it without dropping the transmission? Or do you need to take everything apart just to clean most of it?  

 

 

 

Hello,

 

What happened to my car was that the garage that did the initial installation was somewhat lazy and decided not to do the proper job of cleaning out the bell housing with brake cleaner etc and just stuck the new parts in. I can only assume some of the muck in the bell housing - 14 years of just crap that was in there - made its way onto the clutch plate or flywheel and basically caused the juddering issue we both have.

 

The guy at the second garage explained to me that any oil, grease, dirt etc on the clutch dust could cause this issue and just got it up in the air and blasted some of the rubbish out. Nothing was taken off, was like a 10 minute job and the guy didn't even charge me and the car was back to normal afterwards. So definitely doable without dropping the gearbox or anything. Hopefully it work the same way for you, but if it's grease or something it may not just come off with some compressed air.

 

When you installed the clutch and flywheel did you wash or wipe it down? I'm fairly sure that most come with a protective layer of grease, sort of like a brake disc, that needs to be cleaned off. That could also cause the issue?

 

Good luck with fixing it.

 

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I honestly just gave my entire clutch kit to the shop and they did the rest. They did it quick and for a good price so I imagine it was a pretty lazy job. I doubt they cleaned anything, and probably just threw the new parts on and called it a day. You get what you pay for lol.
 

im also not quite sure if my new parts came with grease on them. I remember the clutch plate being dry, but not sure about the new flywheel because it was wrapped in plastic.

 

I’ll take it to a shop later today and I’ll have them try and clean it out. I really hope it fixes my issue because if not I’ll probably have to drop the transmission again. 
 

thanks again for the help - Max

 

 

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