G1en Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago As some will know, I do a fair bit of track/race stuff in my 350z and one of the big problems this year was 4th gear. Now the gearbox is being re-built for the second time and the company doing it local to me (Its all they do so they know gearboxes in general inside out) have thrown a big spanner in the gearbox so to speak. They rang me today to say the 2nd and 4th synchros i had provided to be swapped, that the existing synchros looked A-ok and only 5th (which i did not do last time) looks like it needs doing, well definately needs doing they said. now i don't have a new 5th synchro to put in and thats not important really as I never use 5th on track, but they also said they think my main issue is the oil i am using. Now I cant remember the last lot i put in, its probably on my build thread, I think it was Fuchs 75/90 titan stuff but that isn't really the point of this as I explained to him I change the gearbox oil twice a year anyhow and every time its something different but I try to get the "best" & "expensive" stuff i can find, This is the problem he explained, I am using oil with too low friction, its basically too slippy and not allowing the synchros to friction and bite! I am trying to understand why the more expensive an oil is, the more it offers "low" friction but the gearbox builder says this is bad and I should be using 10W40 engine oil or a cheap mineral oil (definately not synthetic) which kind of goes against what you would think, BUT does he have a point? does anyone know? Also, the second spanner in the box is that online (i know i know) lots of forums stating DO NOT USE GL5 in a 350z box only use GL4 with some rational behind it stating the GL5 contains additives that degrade the brass Synchros, now I have definately been using lots of oils that state GL4 & GL5 like the one i am about to put in now below: Like above, I thought as the box is being rebuilt again, I would opt for the best i could find, Motorsport use and states suitable for synchromesh gearboxes but is this going to cause more issues than it solves? Does anyone know if this is ok?, i am going to ring Millers tomorrow and ask their technical team. But would also like to know if anyone definetively knows whether a GL4 / GL5 combi oil is no good or a fully synthetic is no good or that we should be using a cheap engine oil / mineral oil for track use (slamming through the gears at high RPM) as they offer a better coefficient of friction required for the synchros then chip in. I may update this with future findings but no doubt the proof of the pudding will be when i do the first event of the season next year and how long it takes for me to swear at the gearbox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G1en Posted 18 hours ago Author Share Posted 18 hours ago Found an old topic on the site where opie oils recommended just this Redline product So the Gearbox company may have a point, may need to get this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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