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As you can see I now have 19 posts 4 or 5 of which have been in the last two days. Hardly what you would call a frequent visitor. As for the back pressure/thermal loadings issue, I cannot comment on whether or not the system fitted to the car in question offered more or less or whether the test pipes aided or hindered. However the car ended up at a BHP level that would have made us uncomfortable. Regards Allan

Sorry I possibly did not make it clear. The communique' was merely a reminder to sell 350Z kits in UK/Europe inclusive of an APS exhaust. Our web pricing was set up to show the individual costs to allow direct comparison between UK & USA to stop those that had already whinged to Australia that they were being ripped off bt UK APS dealers, without them realising the UK kits were in fact different. As we at WRC were not really a player in the 350Z Turbo market, all of this was incidental. G-Force had established themselves as the No.1 supplier/installer of 350Z kits by this stage. I am unable to comment on how they marketed the product or how they sold it face to face. Our first instal was carried out at the end of May / early June of this year [long after Giles' failure and subsequent visits by other non WRC customers to have their maps made less aggresive] and the map we wrote for the car we did was ultra conservative until the exhaust was fitted. It was my fault that I ordered the "non exhaust kit" but our client was not charged for said exhaust until it arrived. This has now been blown out of all proportion by people hunting devils. There are no devils to hunt/find. Please let it lie now. I understand that Giles has an issue but that is surely between him and his supplier and is possibly sub-judice and by discussing this on a public forum has potential to sway the outcome of his case ? Regards Allan

As a company we are fully aware of what APS have said "post event" with regard to TT kits and exhausts. We have not carried out any installations since the bulletin was issued. We have ordered exhausts to go on the kits carried out prior to the failure. However what is baffling is why just Europe ?? Perhaps you know ! As for "thermal loads" many things can contribute to this, one of which is exhaust backpressure. Not really sure that this was the main contributor having seen the map. Regards Allan

I believe that APS operate in a global market with a desire to keep it simple. As a resut one price structure, one currency. You choose the bits that apply to your market. Each market will receive a bulletin with either suggestions or instructions relevant to a particular car or component combination. So lets not go hunting devils here. The car in question had its instal carried out in GB by a GB based tuner. It blew up for whatever reason or combination of reasons. The issue is in essence between the owner and the tuner not APS themselves. IMHO For those that do not know which tuner carried the above instal, I can only say it was not WRC Technologies Ltd Regards Allan

Jon This is an extract from our current APS Stock availability / order form, clearly indicating that you can order 350Z components individually. We used this format as recently as 4 weeks ago to order 2 x TT kits and 3 x exhausts etc. APSG35-HOE/01 G35 2.5" cat back system $1,290.00 APSG35-HOE/03 G35 3" dual exhaust system $1,495.00 APS350Z-HOE/01 350Z 2.5" cat back system $1,290.00 APS350Z-HOE/02 350Z 2.5" cat delete test pipes $195.00 APS350Z-HOE/03 350Z 3" dual exhaust system $1,495.00 APS350Z-HOE/04 350Z 3.5" cat delete test pipes $330.00 APS350Z-HOE/08 Single turbo exhaust system -350z $995.00 Turbo systems APS350Z-TTS/01 Twin turbo system - 350Z/G35 $7,490.00 APS350Z-TTS/05 Twin turbo system - Tuner system $6,295.00 APS350Z-STS/08 Single turbo system - 350Z/G35 $5,890.00 APSG35-SIK/01 Supplemental kit - 350Z to G35 $125.00 Other APS350Z-STB/01 Strut tower brace $245.00 APS350Z-HVO/01 High volume oil pan assembly $395.00 APS350Z-IPA/01 Intake plenum assembly $445.00 All prices are APS' suggested retail in USA if using sea freight into Pacific coast. Best Regards Allan

Jon / Lee Dont you just love hearsay ? The APS Twin Turbo System in the UK for 350Z is priced and specified exactly as per USA. The two kits are identical in their content with the exception of specific components required for RHD vs LHD. The reasons we priced UK at exactly the same as USA pricing were twofold:- 1} APS wanted consistency on 350z product worldwide 2} We wished to restrict internet shopping to those that really felt the added aggro was woth speculating on currency / vat avoidence etc. With this in mind the "kit" as delivered from APS does not contain an exhaust for either market. The fact that APS have recently suggested that the exaust is mandatory for Europe has not altered the fact that we still have to order the exhaust in addition to the TT kit ! The addition of the exhaust as mandatory may or may not have come about as a direct result of failures, who will ever know. The safest route when you are unsure of your facts, would be to refrain from commenting. Regards Allan

Bewildered

I looks like Allan is quoting estimated flywheel figures, whereas our Certificate of Performance shows figures at the hubs. Mark Yep it was our dyno extrapolation of BHP at the fly. However IIRC it was c246 At the rollers. Allan

Minel It is still £2100 deposit followed by 36 months at £209-85 = total amount payable of £9654-60. The interest charge is £1254-60 or 6.638% flat ! It is inc Oil Pan, Plenum, Air Con Regas, Warranty, Install, TT Kit, Mapping & vat at £8400. Cheers Allan

Made a huge mistake on finance calcs guys. It is vastly less per month now. £209-85 per month x 36 !!! Sorry my fat fingers pressed wrong buttons Allan

Dorian Have had a brief look but we are flat out here most days, need time for free/lateral thinking on things like this. Cheers Allan

Mike Sorry thought you were having a dig at me [must keep taking anti-paranoia pills] Cheers Allan

Mike Unsure what that means ? Credit always ends up costing more, particularly unsecured credit. The least expensive methods are :- a] Pay cash outright b] Pay more deposit to lessen monthly The whole thing is aimed at those individuals who have monthly disposable income but do not want to wait 20+ months until they have saved up enough to pay cash. Cheers Allan:D

Hi Guys After a little discussion , we believe that this route is the best option:- APS TT kit+Oil pan+Plenum+Installation+Air Con regas+12 month full car warranty+vat = £8400 all up. Deposit is 25% or £2100 followed by 36 equal payments of £209.85. Weekly equivalent is £48.42 All of this is subject to credit acceptance of the individual. Typical APR is 12.9% but may vary. The basic kit can of course be done for less but then does not come with the complete car warranty. Regards Allan WRC Tech Silverstone 08709-911797 www.wrc-tech.co.uk

WRC Technologies have secured financing for qualifying customers on our APS Twin Turbo packages. We will supply & fit full APS inc plenum & oil pan along with a full 12 month total car cover warranty. The cost to you is from only £53 per week ! Contact Allan 08709-911797