Cazgraeme

17 minutes ago, Ekona said:

Sorry man, but this just sounds like sour grapes to me. You didn't have to sell to them, but the deal worked for you at the time and clearly you were keen to sell and such didn't really haggle over the prices or look elsewhere. That's not EH fault at all. To point the finger at them is grossly unfair.

 

Hope you enjoy the A7, which engine did you go for?

Your correct i didn't have to deal with EH. Just the mark up on z and mark up on audi. Win. win.   And to be fair i did have my head turned by the A7 at the time.

I've  been looking at the  A7s for a while.  ive  got the 3ltr bitdi. (Will try to post some pics).

Decent motor but not the same as my beloved Z.

The grass ain't greener.

Anyone fancy a swap. Lol

9 minutes ago, LRF4N said:

Why did you not sell privately?

So wish i had sold private . Unfortunately my head was turned by the A7. 

Its true what they say about grass being greener. 

26 minutes ago, Ekona said:

No, he would have to spend money, he can't just punt it off in the same condition you sold it to him in. At the very least he's got to valet it, even if you don't think it needs it, plus pay for staff and a nice showroom etc.

 

Do you not think you just might be a bit wrong on this one? How much did you get off the new car, and how hard did you haggle the PX on yours?

Trust me my z was detailed to within an inch of its life. Never seen rain. i get it that the dealer has to make a bit of profit. Bullsh1t quote from dealer. Went along the lines " our cars are priced so low so as there is no margin for haggling". He originally offered me  £13000.  To which  you can guess the reply. So sorry I got rid. 

12 hours ago, MDMetal said:

+1 for the trek quotes!

 

Indeed large chains are masters for milking customers and generating profits but your average small indy is doing a tough job. Most of their cash is tied up in metal on their forecourts with no guarantee it'll sell or they'll break even on it. For every car you think they've made a killing on they'll have several which they've lost on. You just need to look how most cars loose in 3 months to see that the aim of the game is to keep the cars rolling as it were. That's before rates and tax! If it was that easy they'd all be minted and everyone would be setting up showrooms! Just think how many cars do they sell a week? Probably 1-2 so all of their weekly costs need to come from one sale, it's mental when you think of it, a few slow weeks and you need to start selling off cars for less than you paid just to sort your bills out and before long your underwater.

 

I've a lot of time for decent indys and when I haggle it's different to a large dealership where you know it's already marked up excessively and the cars are as common as anything. Indys generally have individually better cars at more reasonable prices and take a bit more time and care (the decent ones anyways)

Morale of the story is. Stick with the small indie. More honest and generally more knowledgeable than the big boys who only see margins

14 hours ago, Ekona said:

They’re not though, are they? As has been pointed out to you, they’ve got to spend money to get your car sellable which if nothing else involves labour time which has a cost, and then they will be knocked down on the selling price too (or the buyer will expect other stuff done instead, like servicing or fuel etc). Then you’ll have presumably haggled down the cost of the car you bought too, and they would have had to spend money to get that sellable too. 

 

There’s also the risk that something doesn’t sell, or they get their pricing wrong and just want shot at no profit, or the car breaks down two miles down the road after the new owner buys it. They then have to get it recovered at £200, spend four hours diagnosing the odd engine noise at £200, then repair the engine at £1000, and suddenly there’s no profit at all. 

 

I dont understand why why you’re struggling with this concept. I’m not sure what you do for a living, but do you work for free? Or charge customers only enough to ever break even? Assuming your figures are right, 11% profit on the £35k sale is utter peanuts. That’s not a huge profit margin at all! 

 

in the case of high value stuff like a 993 Turbo, how is it the dealer’s fault that the other guy was happy to sell for much less than market value? You were happy to sell yours for much less than it might’ve been worth, so why surprised when others do the same? Plus there’s always the risk the arse falls out of the market tomorrow, and suddenly he would’ve been £115k down... The riskier the road, the greater the profit (Ferengi rule of acquisition 62  ).

For the record im a petrochemical engineer. And certainly  dont work for free. The dealer in question isn't a small independent selling one or two motors per week either.  And my Z was in better showroom condition than the car i bought. The dealer would need to spend a big fat zero preping my Z.

 Just saying.

9 hours ago, docwra said:

A mate of mine called me up and asked whether I wanted to get into a high end car sales garage with him. When I asked why, he told me about a 993 Turbo he had been looking at - offered the seller £110K but he refused, however he let my mate know when he did sell it. 

It went to a dealer at £115K, within 24 hours he had cleaned it and put it back up for £160K, two weeks later when I check it was sold. Nice work if you can get it.  

Im defo in the wrong game.

Some good points well made. My point is this. Garage making 2k profit on my px and probably 2k profit on the one im buying.  As i said i understand the dealer has overheads and has to make a few quid but 4k profit  on 35k deal a bit much imo. 

Just seen my Z advertised for  £15500 . Feel like ive been Dry bummed.  WARNING TO All. Give evans halshaw Blackburn a very wide berth

My beloved 370z has to go. Trading in against audi A7.

Road tax. Mpg the z can't compete . Truly gutted to see her go for  £13500 as a trade in. 

Got my baby back today. No more astray courtesy car. Yippee!!! Apparently it was the key reader on the steering column. Many thanks for the replies

Many thanks everyone. Still waiting to hear from the garage. 1 week still no sign of my baby coming home. Will post the prognosis.

I filled with fuel paid got back in car. Car dead. Door locks are working but dash says no key. Tried using 2nd key but got same result. Anyone got any suggestions.