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All boxed up and ready to go on 24 hour delivery...

What is it like on a motorway cruise with these fitted? How much, if any, drone do you get?

Honestly there's no drone at all on these once they're warmed up.

From cold there's drone around the 3000rpm area. After 5 minutes the drone stops and turns into a creamy V6 shriek.

When cruising on the motorway, you wouldn't know the exhaust is there until you put your foot down.

For sale are my Cybox Short Tails for the 370z.

I've sold my 370z now so don't need these anymore. They were only on the car for about 5 months so are in very good condition.

The tips are slash-cut and tapered, giving a nice OEM finish.

In the foreground of the picture below is a long bar with some exhaust clamps either end. I welded this together to use to space the pipes out evenly in the bumper. To adjust it, you just spin the turnbuckle. The black stuff either end is spray paint to prevent the welds from rusting.

The pipes sit pretty evenly on their own, I'm just a bit of a perfectionist!

Cheapest way to make the 370z sound like it should.

Here's a Youtube example:

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That's another option, get a second set of wheels with decent winter Tyres on. Swap over around start of November. And then you can drive the 370 how you want in the poorer weather.

 

Remember winter thres are not the same as snow Tyres. But will increase the cars ability in low temps, wet and snow. Compared to summer Tyres.

A possibility, but quite a big investment if I end up selling up.

how little space are we talking about here? as long as a second car is taxed and insured it can be kept on a road - that's what we do with ours, its just parked outside my flat. are there any quiet streets around or are you under proper inner city pressure?

 

I think if you want a car for track work you'd have just as much fun in a £1000 MX5 as you would in a £20,000 BRZ86 - get one with an LSD, and you can drive the nuts off it on road and on track, and parts are dirt cheap. heck parts are so cheap you can get a second set of wheels with winter tyres on and you'll be mobile in winter as well.

I live in the countryside down a lane. I couldn't have the Zed in the garage and a 2nd car clogging up the driveway. If I kept it in the lane, a tractor would eat it for breakfast.

It is very tempting to go for a dedicated track car but I like the idea of having a car for all purposes. Nice to be able to drive to the track, have some fun, then drive back home again.

I'm starting to think I need to make space for 2 cars now! Wonder if can hide one in a warehouse at work....

just fancied throwing this in the ring, but what about an RX8?

Always wanted one of these but have been frightened off by all the horror stories! I don't have the space for 2 cars really.

I've looked at RX8's not in a serious way but for a laugh looked at the options.

 

The most fun way seemed to get hold of a blown or non rolling one for cheap, like very cheap £800 and get it trailered to a Rotery specialist who will re-build the engine to various ages for various costs.

 

I think for about £2000 you could have a snarling RX8 with a limited warranty.

 

Seemed like a cool idea and I like the look of the RX8's.

That does seem like a cool idea actually. Only £2000 for a rebuild? Would have thought it was more than that?

Why is this so bad ? Its not like you're going to have to " poot " around for 5 months solid of the year.

Ask yourself honestly...how phased by power are you? Dont get reeled in by reviews and others complaining its " underpowered " , as like others have mentioned that was never its forte'.

It would frustrate me having to restrain myself and not be able to use the car properly. Dribbling along in a car that requires speed to come alive can take the shine off ownership a bit, for me anyway. I think with the '86, you can have fun at lower speeds. When you use all the revs, you're not actually going as fast as you think.

I haven't done any track days in the 370 in fear of shredding my tyres and burning the oil.

Wanting a GT is a mixture of having a car that's fun all year round and one that's cheap to run in terms of tyres and brakes.

How many track days a year are you planning on doing? And how hard will you drive on them?

If you are only starting out, then use the 370 and see how it goes....

I'd ideally like to do one every month or so. Won't being going for times, just a good tear about.

I've done a good amount before, but not in the Zed.

I have a daily 370Z, that I track as much as time/money/tyres allows.

Which is about 4 times a year I suppose. Normally one in Europe (Spa + few ring trips) then 3 UK based circuits.

That probably helps you nothing but I felt I was placed to comment.

That is a help, thank you.

Did you have trouble with the oil getting too hot? What about tyres and brakes?

Modulate your right foot a bit!

That's kind of my point. I will literally be pootling everywhere barely stretching the Zeds legs, not getting the most out of that car.

Fair enough. I personally don't think it would be massively worth it as the experiences would be similar, and I suspect you'd find yourself annoyed by the relative lack of power, but it would definitely be cheaper to track.

 

Nice problem to have!

That's my main worry. Now I've got used to it, I think I'd miss the torque quite a lot!

However, a couple owners I've spoken to over on Piston Heads do say you get used to the lower power after a while. The whole car just clicks with you and makes sense as a package. Funnily enough, these two had 350's before.

First world problems and all that....

In a GT86, you put your foot down and it takes longer to pick up speed. Similar to hire car syndrome, you can be thrashing it and having the time of your life, but not actually going that fast...

And how will that be more fun on track than the 370?

 

Seriously, look at the cost to change and what two TDs will cost you in terms of tyres and brakes, and I reckon you could easy spend £3K on a track-spec MX5. Hell, my MR2 only cost me £4K with the turbo conversion and I can promise you that will show any BRZ86 or 370 in sensible (i.e. not stripped) road trim a clean set of heels. Depends on what you want though, I can see the pluses to having a road car that you track, as opposed to a track car that can go on the road.

I've not driven either on the track so can't speak from experience. I'm guessing with the '86 being lighter, it'll be more chuckable and having those Primacy tyres on, adjustable at lower speeds.

To change, it would cost me (for the spec/year I'm looking at) at the most £1000. From what I've read the tyres last quite a long time and are cheap, same with the brakes.

£3000-£4000 on a track toy isn't really viable unless I had the space and a company car for daily duties.

I know they're slower than a Zed in a straight line and probably on the track. In the real world, down a B-road there isn't that much in it. Track times aren't really that important to me, having fun is.

I would be going for a low miler, '13 plate for around the £17,800 mark. Wouldn't really have to spend much at all on top of the sale/trade price for my Zed.

Getting a 2nd car to track isn't really an option for me. I don't have the space. It would also end up being quite expensive after getting a suitable car and setting it up properly. Anything front wheel drive wouldn't really interest me much anyway. I had a Clio 200 before which I tracked, great fun but rear wheel drive is the way forward for me now.

I like the idea of having a car that does the daily duties but can then be thrashed round a track and driven back home at the end of the day (provided you haven't bent it ).

And as for wanting to sell the 370 because you can't handle its immense rwd power in winter; stop being ghey.

I'm perfectly capable of handling the immense power. What I'm trying to say is when you put your foot down in a Zed, you're going to pick up speed very quickly. As you know, when the roads are cold and wet, this can be dangerous. Therefore, I think I'll get frustrated pootling from A to B every day not using the car for what it was made for.

In a GT86, you put your foot down and it takes longer to pick up speed. Similar to hire car syndrome, you can be thrashing it and having the time of your life, but not actually going that fast...

Just do it, if you change your mind come back to the fold.

Whilst this is true, I rather avoid all the faff of changing cars again! Want to try and make the right decision in the first place.

I drove one before buying the 370 , desperately underpowered really and not a great spec

Yeah, they don't feel quite as snug as the Zed and there's no Bose. The power isn't a match to the Zeds but you can make good progress if you wring it's neck. Not as easy to make brisk progress using the Zed's torque though.

Keep the Zed. You can use performance any day of the week, but you will seldom really 'use' the 86's handling... So really you're just getting a slower car. :-(

What about the costs of track days?

They are slow standard, removing cats etc doesn't make a deal of difference but a Super Charger helps, they do look good with a few choice mods too.

If I did get one, it would be straight to Litchfield for a full exhaust system, de-CAT and remap. Possible super charge in the future depending on how long I would keep it...

I've had my 370 for 6 months now and love it.

It looks the business, goes like stink and having fitted a pair of Cybox short tails, sounds pretty mean as well.

I'm getting itchy feet to swap to a GT86 for a few reasons:

1) I'd like to experience as many decent cars as possible.

2) Don't want to be driving the Zed around day to day in the imminent sh!tty weather. It will be very frustrating not being able to drive the car hard when it gets cold and slippery. It will also irritate me trying to keep it clean.

I find it an event every morning/evening having a b-road blast to/from work or the gym. I think winter will take the shine off this a bit when I can't deploy full power.

3) The main reason is the fact I like doing track days. I haven't done any in the 370 due to the cost. I'm pretty confident the '86 will be a fair bit cheaper to maintain if I do a track day every month or so. If anything goes wrong, it's mostly covered by warranty. I could replace all four tyres on an '86 for the same price as a pair of rears on the 370. With the car being heavier, I'd imagine brake pads are going to need replacing at greater cost, more frequently.

Then there's the thought of needing an oil cooler as well....

For point 2, I guess you could say I can buy a cheap and cheerful runaround from an auction and garage the Zed over the winter. This is quite tempting but it doesn't really solve the track day issue. Plus, I'd have to insure and tax another car then.

You could also say that if I did get an '86 I would be just as frustrated driving that in the winter conditions. With 120bhp less than the Zed, I'd think I could use most of the power more often and not worry too much. I think the '86 looks pretty good dirty as well. Probably the

Am I being pedantic about the track day theory of point 3?

There's a lot a talk about the GT86's boxer engine being very flat and uninspiring. I've driven my mate's which has the 2nd CAT deleted, CAT-back exhaust and a remap. This feels way more perky and eager than a stock model and is enjoyable to thrash. A Zed would still blitz it in a straight line... I think that's the main thing I'd miss about the Zed. Got so much grunt. Each car has it's own merits though.

In an ideal world I'd have a 2nd car dedicated for track work/fast road, but I need one car that does everything.

Anyway, sorry for the massive essay! Thoughts appreciated.

Very good.

Same predicament here!

I don't want to fork out for winter tyres and don't really want to drive the Zed in sh tty weather.

I hate seeing it dirty and covered in mud, which there'll be a lot of come October.

Off to the car auctions for me to pick up something cheap and cheerful.

133 CUP.... wicked little car!

Had a brush with the law so had to downgrade somewhat. Didn't really feel shortchanged at all:

Good work!

I going to stick with the factory setup, got used to it now.

Do the actual tyres themselves have a stamp on or are you just talking about the website?

Anyone?

I've found the RE050s for a pretty good price on Tyre Leader.

http://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres-275-35-19/?m=25

I might be being thick here; they're £170 each but.... the 3rd option down says Nissan 370z specific at £220 each.

From what I can see, they're exactly the same, load rating and all.

Am I missing something??

Wow, I haven't been getting notified about all these replies! Thank you for the feedback.

Took me a few weeks to gel with my 370. Love it now!

Fitted the Cybox Short Tails after a couple of months. Makes the car even more enjoyable.

They're a bit cheaper as well from what I can see.