M13KYF Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 After the last Wales trip I noticed a slight squealing from the rear brakes. Thought that perhaps time to change as they have done 30,000 miles. Not bad and from I have read it seemed to be a common time for them to be changed. Anyway after reading various posts on different pads, I opted for Endless VN9500 £158 full car set from BigPhil @ ESR. Front OEM pads were OK and still ahd some life and not near the worn pad indicator. Swapped them over for some new Endless ones Rear pads. Outer pads were ok with still some life and wear indicator had not been reached.. Inside rear pads a different story. Check the photos and you can see how the pad has began break up due to high heat build up on the leading edges This was the cause of the squealing as the meatrial was breaking up and flaking off. Still life in them and not down to the metal. No wear indicator on the inner pads. pads inner and outer side by side inner rear pads, comparison to the outer pad with no break up so if you OEM pads are getting near the 30K mark then perhaps worth taking them oput and having a look. The only way to inspect them is by removing them as you can't see if there is any damage while they are in the calliper. New pads are very impressive. Although bedding in for 100km they are loads stronger than the OEM ones. also while the wheels were off, fitted some LED sidelights. Thanks for the advice and info on these. They look loads better than the original bulbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Quite a shocking state, surprised at all that breaking up. Your braking efficiency must have been severely reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphil Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 fairly typical of what we see everyday and often after recent checks by the dealers. The majority of dealers check the pads with the wheels still on the car which results in this sort of wear not being spotted. The same situation applies to the discs you need to check for lipage on the inside face as this wears first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunset350z Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 After 30 thousand miles they did well. Ageing and heat will cause them to break up. Normally they would wear out first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 my brother fitted these and he's a fully qualified mechanic. He checked the lips of the discs and all see in good condition. Not an excessive edge on any of the discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 That's making me think mine will need doing pretty soon then...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Handy you spotted this Mike - the other week on my 27K service the dealer told me my rears are 90% worn - mainly on the inner side (sound familiar ) but no squealing as yet? Got my replacement pads and intend to fit them hopefully this weekend another first for me on the Zed! Will let you know what mine look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 Handy you spotted this Mike - the other week on my 27K service the dealer told me my rears are 90% worn - mainly on the inner side (sound familiar ) but no squealing as yet? Got my replacement pads and intend to fit them hopefully this weekend another first for me on the Zed! Will let you know what mine look like? make sure you copper grease the leading and trailing edges on the pads where they rub against the calliper. This is where the heat builds up and causes the pad to break down. I guess over time the copper grease wears away and is more vulnerable on the inner sides. My brother used some PlasticLube. It's better than coppergrease and the brake dust doesn't stick to it as much as copper grease. It's what Audi use on the R8's You can get a tube of the stuff from a VW or Audi garage. My brother was a Audi Technician hence the reason why he knows about this better stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Thanks Mike - only concern is the handbrake - they adjusted it right up - so dare I say it - it actually works well !! I guess I need to slacken it off but dont know how - need to do a search later on. Anyway I feel a mini photo rich guide on the cards again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 Thanks Mike - only concern is the handbrake - they adjusted it right up - so dare I say it - it actually works well !! I guess I need to slacken it off but dont know how - need to do a search later on. Anyway I feel a mini photo rich guide on the cards again! handbrake is different. The back has a small drum brake for the handbrake as well as the disc for the braking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Drum brake?? Oh sh** so does that mean I have to pull the hub off etc etc?? Star adjuster (like on my '71 Beetle and all malarchy!) Or I dont need to touch them at all as they are seperate to the discs? Weird set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Or I dont need to touch them at all as they are seperate to the discs? Weird set up? Yes they are seperate, Its not weird stan quite normal infact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 mine looked similar when i changed them last week @ 22k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xStric9x Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 mine looked similar when i changed them last week @ 22k +1 when i changed mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janz70 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 only changed the fronts on mine - but again some slight pad brakedown with about 28K on them (jdm brembos) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Bought front and rear Brembo pads (20,000miles) from Alex this week and what a piece of pxss to change them probably the easiest car to change brakes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teessider Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Hi folks, Im going to change all the discs and pads but need info on handbrake shoes, Ive noticed 2 different sizes advertised 170mm dia by 22mm wide or 175mm dia by 32mm wide, both cant be write. Has anyone had their HB shoes done and know which is the correct size. Mines a 350Z 2003 Fairlady Model. If not will have to remove, measure, put back, order parts then do it all over again so just trying to save myself some work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogyRev Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Hi folks, Im going to change all the discs and pads but need info on handbrake shoes, Ive noticed 2 different sizes advertised 170mm dia by 22mm wide or 175mm dia by 32mm wide, both cant be write. Has anyone had their HB shoes done and know which is the correct size. Mines a 350Z 2003 Fairlady Model. If not will have to remove, measure, put back, order parts then do it all over again so just trying to save myself some work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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