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Thinking about replacing my laptop with a desktop and not used the PS4 for over 18 months so thought might as well go PC gaming for a while.

 

Looking online at Overclockers site building your own or asking them to build one seems quite pricey vs a pre fab one on say amazon. Anyone got any suggestions where to start looking, are some built it for you sites better than others?

 

Would like to build my own but if the price difference is negligible I'd rather someone else built it, save the faff.

 

Thanks for reading :)

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I used to build PC's fairly regularly and although more expensive usually than pre-fabbed, you generally got a better spec. The prices for PC components nowadays, especially anything mentioning "Gaming", is just ridiculous. For me, it no longer represents good value for money building a gaming machine. When my PC finally becomes incapable of playing the latest games, I'll probably get a PS or XBox with a keyboard and mouse converter. This setup is now the price of a decent graphics card and is only slightly worse in terms of graphical performance.

 

Why do you want a PC btw over the PS or XB? A decent machine that will play the latest PC games at full res / highest graphics settings will come in at around £1k... and that will be pretty middle of the road components.

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Hi mate, It depends on what your going for but build it yourself is 100% the way to go if your comfortable with the idea. pre built always looks like a good idea until you find out they skimped on something like the power supply 4 months down the line. If your serious about the pc gaming aspect have a look on steam today, they have a sale going until 6pm tonight that is 30-60% off almost everything in the store. I have a mate who got a pc from overclockers and overall seems quite good. I wouldn't be too worried about warranties because individual components come with very good warranties if you buy from a decent make. Corsair, EVGA, MSI and ASUS are right up there at the top when it comes to individual components. And there is the added benefit of if you build it yourself you know how it all goes together and it makes it very easy to work out hardware faults if they ever occur.

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Build it yourself, working out the quirks is half the fun. If you took all the components out of the pre-fab and priced it up I'm sure it would be cheaper to buy the parts yourself.

 

What you'll find with cheap pre fabs is that the headline components may be decent but the rest of it will be cheap tat.

 

Ebays very good for second had parts.

 

I spent ~£900 on mine 2 years ago and can play most things on ultra and have a 7.8 rating out of 10 for VR.

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I used to build PC's fairly regularly and although more expensive usually than pre-fabbed, you generally got a better spec. The prices for PC components nowadays, especially anything mentioning "Gaming", is just ridiculous. For me, it no longer represents good value for money building a gaming machine. When my PC finally becomes incapable of playing the latest games, I'll probably get a PS or XBox with a keyboard and mouse converter. This setup is now the price of a decent graphics card and is only slightly worse in terms of graphical performance.

 

Why do you want a PC btw over the PS or XB? A decent machine that will play the latest PC games at full res / highest graphics settings will come in at around £1k... and that will be pretty middle of the road components.

 

I want a decent machine to play some new games and office stuff really, I do find my office machine at the moment will seize up with all the programs I have open so want 32GB ram, and the latest graphics card that will last me a few years, although if VR takes off big time then I guess that might influence how long a card will last for.

 

I see some GPU's have dedicated ram too, which complicates how much I need on the motherboard.

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The GPU ram is only for use in video games and other high render situations, ideally the highest vram possible wll help if you want to be playing about 1080p such as 4k. If you are using a lot of programs on top of the ram certainly look at getting a decent sized ssd as your program drive and then a bigger hdd for file storage. this reduces load times and improves the speed of multiple programs massively.

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The GPU ram is only for use in video games and other high render situations, ideally the highest vram possible wll help if you want to be playing about 1080p such as 4k. If you are using a lot of programs on top of the ram certainly look at getting a decent sized ssd as your program drive and then a bigger hdd for file storage. this reduces load times and improves the speed of multiple programs massively.

 

Pretty much what i have , i bought mine from Dino pc where we also bought my sons gaming pc some years back , i have the OS on a SSD and then keep everything else on HDD's

 

I have a GTX 980ti gpu in mine and can run most things on max settings unless they are poorly optimised , my son has a 1080 card in his but the difference at the moment isnt that much , in time I suspect it will become more apparent

 

http://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/home.asp

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So anyone recommend any PC builders online??

 

Scan... if they build machines would be a good shout. Personally, I don't think I've bought any component over the years that wasn't from either Scan or Overclockers. They are always good for customer service, which is really what you want if anything ever goes wrong or needs to be returned.

 

Edit: They do... https://www.scan.co....mputer-hardware

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So anyone recommend any PC builders online??

 

Scan... if they build machines would be a good shout. Personally, I don't think I've bought any component over the years that wasn't from either Scan or Overclockers. They are always good for customer service, which is really what you want if anything ever goes wrong or needs to be returned.

 

Edit: They do... https://www.scan.co....mputer-hardware

 

Are they a bit funny of you try and return components if you're self building though, for example if you fry something accidently?

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OK so, basically I guess what I need recommending is:

 

Motherboard

Graphics card - not too fussed about VR yet I guess as long as the above will be ready for a better graphics card in the future when VR porn really takes off.

processor AMD or intel?

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PC building is another of my many hobbies. Overclockers used to be a regular haunt for me and they build some great systems, but their parts can be expensive. If you know what you want and shop around it can be done quite cheaply. I though I would share pictures of my latest build using the following.

 

Thermaltake Core P5 - powder coated white with custom decals.

Intel 6700k processor

MSI Z170A Gaming Motherboard

32Gb Vengence memory

2x MSI GTX980ti

3x 500gb Intel SSD drives

950 Pro 512GB M.2 PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe SSD

Samsung blu ray drive

 

EK waterblocks for motherboard, processor, memory and GPU's with a 480mm Monster rad, TT fans and Mayhems 16mm glass tubing. I still need to sort out my wiring.

 

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It doesn't have to be a huge case either, here is smaller system I built previously. The board is micro ATX and the case had a small foot print.

 

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The benefits of building your own is that you get exactly what you want, providing you know what you actually want to use the PC for. I built mine with gaming in mind and can run the Oculus Rift VR without a problem.

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OK so, basically I guess what I need recommending is:

 

Motherboard

Graphics card - not too fussed about VR yet I guess as long as the above will be ready for a better graphics card in the future when VR porn really takes off.

processor AMD or intel?

 

So back on track to the above ^^^^ :)

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PC building is another of my many hobbies. Overclockers used to be a regular haunt for me and they build some great systems, but their parts can be expensive. If you know what you want and shop around it can be done quite cheaply. I though I would share pictures of my latest build using the following.

 

Thermaltake Core P5 - powder coated white with custom decals.

Intel 6700k processor

MSI Z170A Gaming Motherboard

32Gb Vengence memory

2x MSI GTX980ti

3x 500gb Intel SSD drives

950 Pro 512GB M.2 PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe SSD

Samsung blu ray drive

 

EK waterblocks for motherboard, processor, memory and GPU's with a 480mm Monster rad, TT fans and Mayhems 16mm glass tubing. I still need to sort out my wiring.

 

 

 

Holy good God... you've actually built a small nuclear power station and put it in your cave...

 

You are Tony Stark and I claim my £5!!

 

:thumbs:

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For reference I've got GTX970 Ti FTW (EVGA) (mid range, last generation) and its perfectly fine for most games on ultra settings (1080p not 4k, but I think 4k is overkill) and VR works fine and probably will do for the next generation.

 

The VR renders brilliantly when shown on my PC its just the pixel density of the headsets thats the issue.

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So anyone recommend any PC builders online??

PC Specialist. I wouldn't go anywhere else, and their customer service is excellent.

 

Sod building your own, too much hassle. Yes I can do it and it's not hard, but I've better things to do with my time especially trying to chase down an error when you can't even get into the OS. I'd rather spend another £150 and get someone to do the leg work for me.

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