Andy_Muxlow Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Nice video dave. I like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 Cheers Andy, you need to do one of your Z before it goes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Muxlow Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Don't think it's going anywhere to be honest dave. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) Back from Motorsport Live in partnership with PistonHeads. Booked for the morning sessions for the International circuit and today was the first time out. Very nearly lost it a couple times learning my limits in the wet. Good mix of cars, RWD, FWD and AWD. Alfa 4C's, M140i, M240i, FK2 type r, Golf GTi Clubsport, S3, GT3, Prelude, MR2, Blop eye Impreza WRX and a shiny 350z. Out on track with my resident spotter!! Edited November 3, 2019 by davey_83 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) Silverstone on Saturday, means Snowfoam on Sunday Edited June 17, 2020 by davey_83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) All cleaned and protected for winter. Single stage machine polish and wax, rubbers and glass sealant applied. Could really tell the difference after the wash as the paintwork was bare and perfect for prep. Bilt Hamber Autofoam 10.1 pre wash Rinse APC 10.1 badges, door handles and window seals then rinse. Two bucket wash *in a fashion Fairy liquid as car shampoo to breakdown all previous polishes and waxes. MF drying towel Single stage machine polish, Auto Finesse Triple with Menzera finishing pad. Autoglym Ultra HD wax Autobrite Project32 as last touch Gtechniq C4 for window rubbers, grille, front splitter & door mirrors base. Gtechniq glass sealant Autoglym Rubber Plus for tyre dressing Edited November 13, 2019 by davey_83 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 hours ago, davey_83 said: Fairy liquid as car shampoo to breakdown all previous polishes and waxes. This does not work, FYI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 Literally done this for years and never ran into any issues, plus my hands felt so soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 You won't have any issues, but you're not removing anything by doing it. Don't get me wrong, if it makes you feel better using it then crack on but just so you're aware, Fairy Liquid categorically does not remove polish or wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 and yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Glad you asked. Fairy Liquid is a surfactant. Look at the ingredients, it only lists 3 or 4 things on the bottle and two of them are listed as surfactants. It’s specifically designed to affect water behaviour. That’s what people want for their dishes. All that shows is that Fairy Liquid leaves something behind, not that it’s stripping off any top layers. Thanks for playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) It's also breaks down grease and grime from old food and drink, it won't be leaving much on our washed and rinsed plates if anything as plates are designed to be eaten off. How do surfactants clean... by breaking down what they come into contact with allowing media to the rinsed away. Thanks for playing? Please troll another build thread if immaturity is your sketch. Edited November 14, 2019 by davey_83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 “Grease and grime” is very different to wax. Using that theory you can wash wax off with just plain water because it cleans other things just fine, right?!? What it leaves behind is designed to be rinses off with hot water, not the cold water you use to rinse car panels; if your man in the video rinsed thoroughly for long enough with hot water he’d soon see the water behaviour change again without touching it - incidentally that does NOT mean that water works as wax, by the way...! As I say if you’re happy doing it then carry on, but don’t believe that it’s achieving anything because it’s not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) I'm totally at a lost what element of fairy liquid will be able to sit comfortably on top of a wax and remains after washing. Polish and waxes contains oils, weather I have food on my hands are grease, oil or been gardening or any kind of general grime I reach for the FL and not IPA. "wash of wax with plain water?" not sure what to do with that tbh. Ultimately if you are speaking from experience that's all well and fair for actually using FL or can present evidence, I'm speaking from experience and I've not known a different when washing up and finally rinsing with cold or hot water. Using a warm bucket of suds with a good ratio of FL goes a long way to removing any old polish and wax, the paintwork doesn't bead at all however does sheet water slowly. I could be completely wrong and now I have a layer of polish, wax, fairy liquid, polish and now wax again. I know one thing, I'm set for the winter in that case. Edited November 14, 2019 by davey_83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 This is exactly my point; using Fairy Liquid to remove wax is a myth. I’m speaking not only from experience but with a good understanding of how the chemicals involved work. I agree, using FL to wash removes the water bearing effect and instils a slow sheeting effect... because that’s what surfactants do by design. The surfactants are short lived and wear off quickly, that’s why if you didn’t do anything after using FL you’d find your wax suddenly comes back to life after a few days, despite being “washed away”. Clean paint actually beads - try it for yourself next time you polish, spray a panel with water when you know it’s got absolutely nothing on and you’ll see for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 Cheers for the reply, no evidence provided to confirm FL leaves anything that a stream of cold water couldn't remove. Very well might be an idea to start an new thread if you can't provide the back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 If you understand what you’re looking at, the evidence is readily available throughout the internet. There’s probably even a YouTube video that’ll explain it for you but given the flat Earth thread I’m not wasting my life looking for evidence that you will accept. Believe it, or don’t; I don’t really care. But it still doesn’t remove wax. All the best to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponsonby Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Next Ilogikal1 mega test - how many cars can you wash with a bottle of Fairy compared to cheaper brands? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) Cheers, you clearly know more than most about detailing however I would say since my first car meet various members have commented on how great my cars paintwork looks. I've been passionate about car care like most for many years and looking online, I've not seen any evidence to suggest my practices are lacking. Bought these a week too late, as could have done with them for my annual wheel and spacer swap. Need an excuse to whip a wheel off now as it's service isn't till march either. In typical fashion, hours spent cleaning and it rains that very night huff Edited November 15, 2019 by davey_83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) People think I am mad cleaning my cars in winter between rain showers, I just ask them 'did you not have a shower this morning because its raining out?' Edited November 15, 2019 by coldel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 Yeah exactly, folks at work say why bother if you know it's going to get mucky the day after? I say do you not clean your house before a party, even though you know it'll need doing soon after - works every time. As the nights draw in, any evening wash I do will be in the dark and just today Amey have been out to install a bright LED unit to replace the defective one outside the property - result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 We just had new LED street lights put in, we have one directly opposite, had to purchase a set of black out blinds for the bedroom - so bright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) Since moving in and the road had nice down LED's, with replacing the defective one the new installment looks a different style to the old one. In an hour or so time il see what's what. This is the 'highlight' of my day lol Edit - it's grand, council tax doing its job. Lights the road, foot path and part of the drive. Edited November 15, 2019 by davey_83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 It could be the highlight of your night too The ones we had put in basically shone out across as well as diametrically down, so literally shine directly into upstairs windows lighting up the whole front of the house. Bonkers! Anyway, wont derail the thread with streetlamp stories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortPaul Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 On 14/11/2019 at 09:36, davey_83 said: It's also breaks down grease and grime from old food and drink, it won't be leaving much on our washed and rinsed plates if anything as plates are designed to be eaten off. How do surfactants clean... by breaking down what they come into contact with allowing media to the rinsed away. Thanks for playing? Please troll another build thread if immaturity is your sketch. Now now play nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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